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  • mfbmike
    Goat****er
    • Nov 2008
    • 4793

    #16
    Most Improved Player is based HEAVILY on stats/numbers.

    Durant won't be in the running because there won't be enough of an increase in his statistical output.

    Some of the suggestions in here are pretty laughable. rofl, good god.

    Channing Frye definitely has the opportunity. That's a good one.

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    • jags224
      El Contusion
      • Oct 2008
      • 3780

      #17
      corey brewer
      "From the time he hits the court, he plays at a competitive level that you rarely see," Popovich says. "He does the exact same things that Kobe (Bryant) does, that Michael Jordan did.

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      • Archer
        Go the fuck outside
        • Oct 2008
        • 15303

        #18
        Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
        I dont see the logic in not being able to read. I clearly stated Durant should get better, but elite players dont win MIP awards.

        Tell me that last elite player to win that award and ill give you a cookie.

        And note that Danny Granger does NOT apply.. he was only elite to fantasy bball players, not to the rest of the NBA.
        Granger improving his PPG by 5points every season is the perfect example of improvement however (pretty sure hes the only player in recent NBA history to do this)

        But I agree , Granger wasn't elite before last season and is only just on the edge now .

        Durant is probably too elite and well known to win it this season .
        Last edited by Archer; 10-11-2009, 12:08 PM.

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        • Golden Taters
          RIP West
          • Jul 2009
          • 6640

          #19
          Greg Oden

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          • FedEx227
            Delivers
            • Mar 2009
            • 10454

            #20
            Aaron Brooks is my number one choice.

            He's going to see a huge scoring increase and likely be Houston's number one or number two option on offense. He averaged 11.2 last year, I have to imagine that's going to be near the 16-18 range this year, that's a pretty good way to get yourself onto the MIP ballot.

            Obviously Anthony Randolph is a contender, as well as Hibbert if he gets the playing time.

            Kevin Durant, people...really? He averaged 25.3 ppg last year, lol. Unless he gets to 35 ppg, he's not going to win it.
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            • Archer
              Go the fuck outside
              • Oct 2008
              • 15303

              #21
              Roy Hibbert is my homer pick . Hes looking great in pre-season and if his college career says anything it's that he got much better year by year

              My serious pick is Oden if he stays healthy

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              • FedEx227
                Delivers
                • Mar 2009
                • 10454

                #22
                Sadly, that's a pretty big if. But yeah, Hibbert is definitely in the running because he basically just has to improve on a 7.1 ppg/3.5 rpg line, which he can easily do.
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                • A Tasty Burgerr
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                  • Oct 2008
                  • 5916

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                  Quote it dude.. you will be eating crow come mid-season.
                  All of the past 10 winners with the exception of Bobby Simmons have been at least borderline all-star capable players. Other than Diaw who put up 13 / 7 / 7 everyone has had at least 16 ppg

                  Baring an injury to Amare and Nash do you honestly believe that Channing Frye will put up any more than 12-13 ppg tops?

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                  • Kuzzy Powers
                    Beautiful Like Moses
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 12542

                    #24
                    Originally posted by A Tasty Burgerr
                    All of the past 10 winners with the exception of Bobby Simmons have been at least borderline all-star capable players. Other than Diaw who put up 13 / 7 / 7 everyone has had at least 16 ppg

                    Baring an injury to Amare and Nash do you honestly believe that Channing Frye will put up any more than 12-13 ppg tops?
                    Ive already predicted him to have a chance at MIP.. asking me for exact numbers aint even right son. Im going bold enough as it is.

                    Point is.. Channing Frye has a lot better chance to win the award then Baron Davis.

                    Gilbert Arenas and his 11PPG, 4 APG, and 3 RPG was a borderline all-star the year before he won?

                    How about Zach and his 8PPG and his 4 RPG.

                    How about Ellis and his 7 PPG and 3 RPG and 1 APG..

                    Hedo.. 14, 3 and 3.

                    Either you're talking out your ass or you have a low standard if what you consider an All-Star.

                    Even if what you were saying is true (and it isnt) theres a difference between being elite and being a "borderline all-star".

                    Kevin Durant's numbers from last year:

                    26 PPG, 7 RPG, 2 APG.. a HUGE difference betweent he so called "10 borderline all-stars" you're referring to.

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                    • A Tasty Burgerr
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                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5916

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                      Ive already predicted him to have a chance at MIP.. asking me for exact numbers aint even right son. Im going bold enough as it is.

                      Point is.. Channing Frye has a lot better chance to win the award then Baron Davis.

                      Gilbert Arenas and his 11PPG, 4 APG, and 3 RPG was a borderline all-star the year before he won?

                      How about Zach and his 8PPG and his 4 RPG.

                      How about Ellis and his 7 PPG and 3 RPG and 1 APG..

                      Hedo.. 14, 3 and 3.

                      Either you're talking out your ass or you have a low standard if what you consider an All-Star.

                      Even if what you were saying is true (and it isnt) theres a difference between being elite and being a "borderline all-star".

                      Kevin Durant's numbers from last year:

                      26 PPG, 7 RPG, 2 APG.. a HUGE difference betweent he so called "10 borderline all-stars" you're referring to.
                      First of all fuck Baron Davis, I never said that bum ass *****'s gonna win shit.

                      When I said "borderline-all star" I meant the year they won the award, not the previous year.

                      I just am saying I don't think Channing Frye is capable of putting up numbers close to what he would need to win MIP in his extended minutes, and numbers aside I can't see him drastically improving as a player at all.

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                      • Primetime
                        Thank You Prince
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 17526

                        #26
                        Gregory Oden

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                        • FlawLeSs
                          South Beach Talent
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1988

                          #27
                          corey brewer

                          hes a gator
                          www.youtube.com/kingoffla

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                          • FedEx227
                            Delivers
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 10454

                            #28
                            Originally posted by A Tasty Burgerr
                            When I said "borderline-all star" I meant the year they won the award, not the previous year.

                            I just am saying I don't think Channing Frye is capable of putting up numbers close to what he would need to win MIP in his extended minutes, and numbers aside I can't see him drastically improving as a player at all.
                            That doesn't make any sense though. Of course the year they won it they became borderline all-stars, that's essentially what the award is rewarding.

                            No, I don't think Frye is up to the level of those other guys but not a lot of people thought Arenas was anything special until he had a breakout year, nobody thought much of Hedo besides a nice piece of those Kings teams, Monta Ellis was barely on the NBA radar before breaking out and winning the award.
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                            • corbin
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1963

                              #29
                              Chris Douglas Roberts, the dude is a monster. I'd love to see what he could do in a full season. They may as well start him at the 3, that team is going to be a mess anyways.

                              I'd also like to put out Brandon Rush, I've had a man crush since he came out of Kansas. He needs to improve on some facets of his game but he could excel in the Pacers up-tempo offense.

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                              • A Tasty Burgerr
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                                • Oct 2008
                                • 5916

                                #30
                                Originally posted by FedEx227
                                That doesn't make any sense though. Of course the year they won it they became borderline all-stars, that's essentially what the award is rewarding.

                                No, I don't think Frye is up to the level of those other guys but not a lot of people thought Arenas was anything special until he had a breakout year, nobody thought much of Hedo besides a nice piece of those Kings teams, Monta Ellis was barely on the NBA radar before breaking out and winning the award.
                                All of the players that won it either didn't have to opportunity to show what they're capable of or have shown promise, I believe Frye has already proven what he is capable of, and as the offense's 5th option assuming he starts he won't put up nearly as good of numbers that he needs to win.

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