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  • strahanfan92
    Meat
    • Aug 2009
    • 5456

    #16
    Cut 6 of the worst markets. 24 Teams = Better competition.

    I think I got this from Bill Simmons.

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    • Warner2BruceTD
      2011 Poster Of The Year
      • Mar 2009
      • 26142

      #17
      Originally posted by dave
      Basketball and hockey need that many games.
      No.

      Like jeffx mentioned earlier, the lockout year proved that 50 something games was pretty much ideal. You know what you've got after 50 or 60, 80 is excessive, but we all know why it's 82 and it isnt going to change.

      50-60 games & 24-28 teams would improve the league, but both are a pipe dream. It's a business, and businesses grow and expand, they don't contract.

      My big issue with the NBA is depth. The talent is spread too thin and there are too many carbon copy 6'7" swingman scrubs littering rosters. And half the teams in the league lack a quality C, and are either starting a big stiff (Joel Anthony, or the awful Russian on NY) or a miscast fat PF (Eric Dampier in recent years). Would anyone, outside of the 12,000 people who go to the games, care if the Charlotte Bobcats or Toronto Raptors ceased to exist?

      The talent wasnt better in the 80's, because talent always moves forward. But the depth was 1000X better, which led to better games.

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      • Kuzzy Powers
        Beautiful Like Moses
        • Oct 2008
        • 12542

        #18
        Originally posted by Houston
        Do you think it'd better if they had wayyy less games and they were all generally on the same day like the NFL?

        There's so many games that I see no point in watching them, yet along caring about the outcome. If the Texans were 0-3 right now I'd be pissed and already counting them out of the playoffs, The Rockets are 0-3 right now and there's no reason to have a care in the world cause they could easily come back and have a good record.

        Also if there was a full week between the games maybe I'd actually get exicted about them and be able to sit though the whole game. It's hard to anticipate games when they're so close to each other. Stop paying attention for 5 mins and your teams already played 3 games.

        The worst thing is having series in the playoffs, it makes the game so predictable. Yes the last seed may get lucky the 1st game and beat the Lakers but there's no way they're gonna beat them 4 times. There's what? 5 teams that actually have a chance to make it to the finals...
        I love the NFL cause on any given Sunday a low seed team can catch someone like The Colts or Patriots slipping and knock them out. You can barely even predict what teams make the playoffs, who would've thought that the Cowboys and Vikings wouldn't make the playoffs this year? Some analysis(idiots in IMO) picked the 49ners to have a real good season...
        The first point may be the worst idea for basketball that ive EVER seen. Having games once a week is brutal for revenue, brutal for keeping players active, brutal for the fans, brutal for television, its just brutal for everyone. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the NBA scheduling system, to even compare it to the NFL is just ridiculous.

        Also, you obviously have never watched the NBA playoffs if you think its predictable. Not that the upsets are that frequent, but so many playoff series end up extremely entertaining because the underdog gave the huge favourite all they could handle. And in a case like GS/Dallas, actually beat them, it does happen.

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        • Kuzzy Powers
          Beautiful Like Moses
          • Oct 2008
          • 12542

          #19
          Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
          Would anyone, outside of the 12,000 people who go to the games, care if the Charlotte Bobcats or Toronto Raptors ceased to exist?
          Yes. A whole country would care, and the NBA would care because its going to lose a large amount of money and fans they make in that country. The way Americans think of the Raptors is just ridiculous, they have great fan support, its a great city, and they're making good money despite having foolish ticket prices in this city for any sport. There are plenty of teams in the NBA who would be up for contraction before the Raptors.

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          • mgoblue2290
            Posts too much
            • Feb 2009
            • 7174

            #20
            Aren't NBA teams like the Bobcats and Raptors actually losing money though? I thought I read somewhere a decent number of teams are bleeding cash.

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            • FedEx227
              Delivers
              • Mar 2009
              • 10454

              #21
              Originally posted by mgoblue2290
              Aren't NBA teams like the Bobcats and Raptors actually losing money though? I thought I read somewhere a decent number of teams are bleeding cash.
              Yeah there are a bunch that are, not sure if the Raptors are.

              Bucks, Warriors, Grizzles, Wolves Kings, Bobcats and Hornets are the biggest teams in the hole.

              Some relatively good teams with healthy fan bases lost too like the Mavericks, Blazers, Orlando (they have a new stadium though so they should be good for now)
              VoicesofWrestling.com

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              • FedEx227
                Delivers
                • Mar 2009
                • 10454

                #22
                Originally posted by strahanfan92
                Cut 6 of the worst markets. 24 Teams = Better competition.

                I think I got this from Bill Simmons.
                Great idea Simmons, they aren't building leases or leases with cities that built publicly funded stadiums or anything.

                GO CELTICS!
                VoicesofWrestling.com

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                • Kuzzy Powers
                  Beautiful Like Moses
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 12542

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mgoblue2290
                  Aren't NBA teams like the Bobcats and Raptors actually losing money though? I thought I read somewhere a decent number of teams are bleeding cash.
                  I have never heard of any financial issues in Toronto. I cant confirm or deny if we lost or made money last year because as FedEx said, even some good teams are losing money, altho I really doubt we're one of them.

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                  • FedEx227
                    Delivers
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 10454

                    #24
                    The Raptors did not lose money last year according to Forbes.
                    VoicesofWrestling.com

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                    • EmpireWF
                      Giants in the Super Bowl
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 24082

                      #25
                      Forbes reported the Blazers, Mavericks, Magic, Hawks, Hornets, Pacers, Bobcats, Nets, Bucks, Grizzlies, Wolves and Kings lost money last year.

                      The Lakers and Bulls made north of $50 million, the Pistons and Rockets made more than $30 million and the fucking Knicks made $21 million.

                      The Thunder made $12.7 million.


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                      • EmpireWF
                        Giants in the Super Bowl
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 24082

                        #26
                        If you cut teams based on market size, you would cut New Orleans, Oklahoma City, Memphis, Utah, Milwaukee and San Antonio.

                        If you cut based on money, they would likely cut Portland, New Orleans, Indiana, Charlotte, Milwaukee and Memphis.

                        Originally posted by strahanfan92
                        Cut 6 of the worst markets. 24 Teams = Better competition.

                        I think I got this from Bill Simmons.
                        Ideally, to improve the sporting aspect, it would be a great idea.

                        But there's no way in hell the NBA cuts six entire teams/markets out and fires hundreds of personnel and axes 72 player jobs plus the coaching jobs overnight. The league would have to be in a perilous position financially and that's nowhere the case right now.

                        It would be sweet to have some of the just average players who don't belong in the NBA gone.


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                        • Kuzzy Powers
                          Beautiful Like Moses
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 12542

                          #27
                          Raptors are actually in one of the stronger positions in the league for having such a poor team. I know it seems easy to contract the shitty team in another country but it really doesnt make any sense.

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                          • Buzzman
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 6659

                            #28
                            How the fuck did DET make 30 million? I don't think they sold out a single game last year. That's why i love Detroit, there fans always stick with them.

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                            • Mogriffjr
                              aka Reece
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2759

                              #29
                              Basketball is great now...so much young star talent coming up the ranks, i tune into almost any game on now.
                              Originally posted by Nick Mangold
                              Wes Welker is a great player. He's really taken advantage of watching film. If we don't keep a Spy on him, he could really open the Gate.

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                              • packersfan4eva
                                Ryan Luxem
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 9052

                                #30
                                College sports are the shit. Most of them don't care about how much money they're making, or whether or not their dreads look good for commercials, etc. They just love to play the game

                                Originally posted by Miggyfan99
                                I would get fucked in the ass for WS tickets too... only if Miguel was playing though

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