Derrick Rose IS THE BEST PG in the NBA

[FirstTimer]

First, Learn to multiquote properly cunt.

No, it has nothing to do with my argument in the first place. I've said countless times I am basing my MVP opinion on who the best player in the league is. If you can't comprehend that, I've lost hope in you.

and completely disregard the fact that they acquired Carlos Boozer...

Boozer is obviously a good player but guess what? Rose was putting up virtually the same stat line without Boozer. And if we are basing it off best player, then team records are out the door as it's possible for the best player to play on a bad team. So the Bull sbeing 9-6 without Boozer, using your logic, is a moot point.

Good work missing the point

No.. You know wtf tongue in cheek means?

Then you said it's "real". And you're asking me if I know what tongue in cheek means?

Are you intentionally being this clownish?

Besides Nash's 2 MVP's, I don't have a problem with who won it.

So Karl Malone was the best player in the league over Michael Jordan? Then MJ became the best player in the league again the next season?
LULZ.

Where did I ever say that?

I never said you said that. I was asking a question probing the fact that you are ignoring obvious points that while you point out the Bulls got better because they got Thibideau and Boozer and still had Lulz Deng you continue to ignore that the Heat got better with James playing with Dywane Wade and Chris Bosh.

For fucksake.

You keep thinking I'm basing my argument on how well the team is doing. Get that out of your diminutive brain. It's not even the basis for it.

Then why bring up the Bulls 9-6 record without Boozer? Why bring up the collapse of the Cavs? If teams records have nothing to do with it then why did you bring them up? Holy shit you're dense...

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No shit he's hurt.

Well good thing Derrick Rose has him!

James decrease in stats, and Rose's improvement, and Rose still isn't better than LeBron... So... Yeah. As far as stats go Rose isn't on LeBron's level. As far as talent, he isn't, and as far as team success, he isn't. The Bulls didn't have a turnaround season. Going from being .500 to being better than .500 isn't a turnaround, it's an improvement.

Yeah they are merely "better than .500". They are 20 fucking games over .500 and two or so games back of the Miami Heat/Celtics. Right now it's impossible for the Heat to finish more than 20 games better than they did last season. The Bulls still can.

Then again the Bulls record, according you shouldn't matter so it doesn't matter if they have a turnaround season or not so putting down anything anyone said about the Bulls record or a turnaround season shouldn't have even gotten a response from you.

Of course I can. The Cavaliers went from being the first seed 2 years in a row, to being a complete shit show. 99% of the reason is because LeBron left. The Bulls went from being a .500 team to a 38 win team so far.

They are 20 fucking games over .500. Saying they are a"38 win team" is a nice try at hiding that but you fail.

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On subject of names, you're from Illinois, so I'm sure you don't have red tinted glasses on or anything.

My name has nothing about me being from Illinois. Nice segway fail. Also, my red tinted glasses haven't ever prevented me from screaming that Luol Deng is shit, I hated the Noah draft pick at the time. Can't stand the Bulls front office etc. As if me wanting Rose to be MVP is because I'm a Bulls fan.....and nobody else has him in the discussion. I'm not touting Luol Deng as an All Star. I'm forwarding Derrick Rose as an legit MVP candidate, which is a REALLY easy case to make...since most people with a brain are doing it.

[FirstTimer]

The raptors beat the bulls last night

Oh yeah and Dwight Howard, another guy on Rondo's list, just lost to the Kings last night at home.

[Kuzzy Powers]

I thought I already touched on the Raptors winning with my Calderon > Rose post.

[FirstTimer]

I thought I already touched on the Raptors winning with my Calderon > Rose post.

Except you forgot that no one gives a fuck about the Raptors.

:smugusa:

[Kuzzy Powers]

Except you forgot that no one gives a fuck about the Raptors.

:smugusa:

Tom Thibodeau cares. He was in a mad rage all night long.

[FirstTimer]

Tom Thibodeau cares. He was in a mad rage all night long.

That's because he was stuck in that hell hole city/country.

I'd be pissed too if I ever had to go there. Beer prices are insane.

Plus I'm convinced Thibs is always angry. I'm pretty sure he's pissed off on Christmas morning.

[Juggernaut]

I knew you'd point that out, but I never based my opinion of who MVP is on how good their team is, or how well they're playing.

The MVP award is seasonal. They award the season's MVP, not the era's MVP or some shit like that. Right now, Rose is clearly playing better than LeBron. Rose had to carry the Bulls on his back when Noah and Boozer both missed time.

The bolded part, I don't really know how you can even say that.

[Kuzzy Powers]

That's because he was stuck in that hell hole city/country.

I'd be pissed too if I ever had to go there. Beer prices are insane.

Plus I'm convinced Thibs is always angry. I'm pretty sure he's pissed off on Christmas morning.

It was clearly because the soft wop Bargnani was owning his boys last nite.

Thibodeau is always angry tho.. that dude dont fuck around on the sideline. Perfection or gtfo.

[FirstTimer]

That is my fucking point brah. Rose is not the best player. Other people are basing Rose being MVP this season on the Bulls improvement.



2. He is not the sole responsibility of the Bulls improvement.

And Neither is James for the Heat's improvement...and again......The Bulls or Heats improvement shouldn't matter to you at all. If you say you don't care how the team is doing you can't also counterpoint by admitting the team improved, yet it doesn't matter or isn't solely because of one player.

Your compelte lack of logic and understanding of the conversation is depressing.

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Go back and reread the thread.

You mean the one where you said Lebron should win it because his old team sucks...but that was tongue in cheek...yet real..yet tongue in cheek?

Oh, that thread.

It was clearly because the soft wop Bargnani was owning his boys last nite.

Noah was high.

What I meant by the bolded part is how well the team is playing. Not the player individually. I base the MVP off of how well the player is playing. LeBron is easily playing as well as Rose. Better in my opinion.

So Lebron is playing "as well as Rose" and "better" yet Rose isn't in your Top 5 for the MVP?

GTFO

Your entire argument is beyond flawed because if you believe Lebron is the best player in the NBA it doesn't have to mean that he is playing the best. Players have down years, stretches, etc. If you believe Lebron is the MVP, fine. I disagree but to not even have Rose in your Top 5 is retarded. Hell, I'd argue if Rose isn't in your Top 3 you might seriously need to go in for a CAT scan. But whatever.

Don't start in with this convoluted argument that you give the MVP to the best player and Lebron is basically the MVP until someone comes along and unseats him. It's a seasonal award. Lebron may be the best player in the NBA talent wise, perhaps even stats wise most of his seasons, but that doesn't mean he's the MVP every single year. Players rise and fall and some step up and have great seasons like Rose is this season and while James may be the "better player" that doesn't make him the MVP of the league. That's not the way the award is voted on. If it were Jordan would have 3-4 more trophies in the case.

Durant was the preseason favorite this year but that doesn't mean people thought he was a better all around player than James. Just that Durant would be the MVP of the league. You're trying to think about it with an open mind, but the problem is your mind is so open your brain fell out.

[NAHSTE]

I lol'd at "learn to multiquote cunt" ... Makes me think of the end of Kanye West's "Blame Game."


"FTeezy taught me"

[Boucher]

Doesnt the former raptors play by play do the bulls play by plays?

[Kuzzy Powers]

Doesnt the former raptors play by play do the bulls play by plays?

Smh @ you not remembering Chuck Swirski..

[Boucher]

I dont follow basektball

[Sharkweather]

This will be a fun thread after LBJ wins MVP.

[FirstTimer]