Syracuse Coach Bernie Fine Under Investigation

[BigHouseUSA]

So, Fine's been fired and Boeheim looks like an idiot. Can't believe he stuck his neck out like that, completely ridiculous decision.

[NAHSTE]

The stuff with the wife and the victim is fucking bizarre. Apparently the two of them were also sexually involved at some point.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Just goes to show how people took glee in taking down Paterno, because as a society we search for reasons to take people down who have strong moral reputations. Just look at the treatment Tebow gets.

Boeheim even strongly supported his kid toucher, and flat out called the victims money grubbing liars. Paterno did none of that. But Paterno was a fun target to tear down, because of the super clean, all american from another era type image. "pffft, fuck him and his squeaky clean b.s., fire him, and I hope he suffers & dies from his cancer!"....pretty disgusting stuff was/is being said. AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT HE KNEW. We assume.

Meanwhile, Boeheim has been largely left alone by the public. Surely he MUST have known, right? Surely he allowed this to go on, right? He was there forever, just like Paterno. He IS Syracuse basketball, he calls the shots, just like Paterno. Why the pass?

[NAHSTE]

Meanwhile, Boeheim has been largely left alone by the public. Surely he MUST have known, right? Surely he allowed this to go on, right? He was there forever, just like Paterno. He IS Syracuse basketball, he calls the shots, just like Paterno. Why the pass?

Laziness is a big reason. I just don't feel like expending the same amount of rage all over again.

[BigBucs]

So sick. The wife will probably be brought up on charges as well

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[ralaw]

Just goes to show how people took glee in taking down Paterno, because as a society we search for reasons to take people down who have strong moral reputations. Just look at the treatment Tebow gets.

Boeheim even strongly supported his kid toucher, and flat out called the victims money grubbing liars. Paterno did none of that. But Paterno was a fun target to tear down, because of the super clean, all american from another era type image. "pffft, fuck him and his squeaky clean b.s., fire him, and I hope he suffers & dies from his cancer!"....pretty disgusting stuff was/is being said. AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT HE KNEW. We assume.

Meanwhile, Boeheim has been largely left alone by the public. Surely he MUST have known, right? Surely he allowed this to go on, right? He was there forever, just like Paterno. He IS Syracuse basketball, he calls the shots, just like Paterno. Why the pass?

From everything we've been told these stories are different, which would explain the differences between Paterno's treatment and Boeheim's. If it comes out that Fine had a known history and that Boeheim was made aware of an incident then you can compare. At this point the only thing Boeheim did that was wrong was to come out and say the kid was lying. You should stop searching for reasons to paint Paterno as a victim.

[x0xHumblex0x]

So, Fine's been fired and Boeheim looks like an idiot. Can't believe he stuck his neck out like that, completely ridiculous decision.

he really looks very very very dumb.
i guess you can never really know a person

So sick. The wife will probably be brought up on charges as well

she should be.........she knew and did nothing???

[shag773]

From everything we've been told these stories are different, which would explain the differences between Paterno's treatment and Boeheim's. If it comes out that Fine had a known history and that Boeheim was made aware of an incident then you can compare. At this point the only thing Boeheim did that was wrong was to come out and say the kid was lying. You should stop searching for reasons to paint Paterno as a victim.

The only difference between the two stories is a Syracuse assistant coach didn't catch Fine in the act of molestation with the ball boy and report it to Boeheim. But given his initial reaction to these charges, do you honestly think Boeheim would have acted any differently than what you think Paterno did?

Obviously this case wasn't handled very well at Penn State, but find me 1 quote from a PSU school official ripping the alleged victims like Boeheim did:

"The Penn State thing came out, and the kid behind this is trying to get money," Boeheim said. "He's tried before. And now he's trying again. If he gets this, he's going to sue the university and Bernie. What do you think is going to happen at Penn State? You know how much money is going to be involved in civil suits? I'd say about $50 million. That's what this is about. Money."

[x0xHumblex0x]

The only difference between the two stories is a Syracuse assistant coach didn't catch Fine in the act of molestation with the ball boy and report it to Boeheim. But given his initial reaction to these charges, do you honestly think Boeheim would have acted any differently than what you think Paterno did?

Obviously this case wasn't handled very well at Penn State, but find me 1 quote from a PSU school official ripping the alleged victims like Boeheim did:

Boeheim looks worse because he isnt keeping his mouth shut. instead he sticking his head up his ass with his foot in it.

at least Paterno didnt go shooting off his mouth...........

[ralaw]

The only difference between the two stories is a Syracuse assistant coach didn't catch Fine in the act of molestation with the ball boy and report it to Boeheim. But given his initial reaction to these charges, do you honestly think Boeheim would have acted any differently than what you think Paterno did?

Obviously this case wasn't handled very well at Penn State, but find me 1 quote from a PSU school official ripping the alleged victims like Boeheim did:

It is believed Beoheim had no clue about this......that is a major difference. After the latest reports of another victim and Fine's wife being on tape Beoheim has totally reversed his stance. Given his reversal it is reasonable to believe that had he known he probably would have handled Fine differently. Paterno wasn't fired because he was Joe Paterno...he was fired because he played an active role in enabling a child predator.

[shag773]

Boeheim looks worse because he isnt keeping his mouth shut. instead he sticking his head up his ass with his foot in it.

at least Paterno didnt go shooting off his mouth...........

Paterno's critics will say he didn't come out and say enough, which is fine. Paterno's actions on his front lawn after he was fired didn't endear him to a lot of people. It wasn't the time to partake in a Penn State chant.

The Penn State situation has created a huge public soap box that everyone is trying to stand on and be heard. Most of the subject matter has been 95% Paterno on what he did and didn't do, even though he's an actual grand jury witness for the prosecution and has cooperated through the entire process.

Boeheim on the other hand has scoffed at the victims allegations until yesterday. He publicly endorsed the innocence of this sick fuck. But I'm supposed to believe he would come forward to the authorities if he was in the same situation as Paterno right?

Right....

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

This story is off the damn wall.

If I didn't know any better, Bernie Fine's wife and this kid had a relationship for years (prior to him turning 18, conveniently). But, oddly, I see this kid (Davis), having a "relationship" with Fine, as well, on some level...why would Fine be supplying him with money and he constantly be over his house, etc.

Really weird situation going on with this Davis kid and the Fine family...leads me to believe it might be more than a pedo just raping the ball boy, although, it sounds like Fine enjoyed the company of young boys regardless.

Fuckin weirdos, all around in this situation.

[shag773]

After the latest reports of another victim and Fine's wife being on tape Beoheim has totally reversed his stance. Given his reversal it is reasonable to believe that had he known he probably would have handled Fine differently.

You can't be serious. I think at that point he really didn't have a choice, did he?

Well I'll say this then. If Paterno heard a taped phone conversation from Sandusky's wife implicating him in the molestation if these victims, he would have handled it differently.

Paterno wasn't fired because he was Joe Paterno...he was fired because he played an active role in enabling a child predator.

No, he was fired because the public PERCIEVED him as enabling a child predator. There's an actual investigation happening as we speak to determine that by the NCAA and the university.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Paterno's critics will say he didn't come out and say enough, which is fine. Paterno's actions on his front lawn after he was fired didn't endear him to a lot of people. It wasn't the time to partake in a Penn State chant.

The Penn State situation has created a huge public soap box that everyone is trying to stand on and be heard. Most of the subject matter has been 95% Paterno on what he did and didn't do, even though he's an actual grand jury witness for the prosecution and has cooperated through the entire process.

Boeheim on the other hand has scoffed at the victims allegations until yesterday. He publicly endorsed the innocence of this sick fuck. But I'm supposed to believe he would come forward to the authorities if he was in the same situation as Paterno right?

Right....

Boeheim actually comes off as a normal dude in this situation...moreover Paterno.

Boeheim's reaction is common...his right hand man was accused of being a pedo, and Boeheim, seeing this story as being shady as hell (which it is, although, it seems there is a lot of truth to it), backs his right hand man like most people would do if it was their best friend with the same accusations...

As more and more information comes out, seemingly, Fine IS a kid toucher, Boeheim, coming to terms with it, initiates a press release saying what he said.

He should have a presser and just come out and say he spoke too soon and off of emotion for his right hand man...but, we all know old men are stubborn like that.

[shag773]

He should have a presser and just come out and say he spoke too soon and off of emotion for his right hand man...but, we all know old men are stubborn like that.

He actually did make a statement last night basically saying that..