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[Kuzzy Powers]

LOL, I enjoy the comparison but I really wouldnt give a fuck abt someone stealing hospital supplies, as it doesnt directly effect me in any way.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Here's the quality:

 

Empty Bobcats seats in vivid 1080p.

FANtastic!

LOL. Nah I'm cool for now but they better not try to fuck with baseball. It'd be like someone breaking into your place of work and stealing latex gloves or smocks. That's how a honkie eats.

SMOCKS

[Bear Pand]

Yeah I mean I hate to say it but I would have shut it down yesterday if it had anything to do with any companies we run streams for. You just can't let people pirate your shit if you want to stay in business.

I can only imagine there is an NBA.com employee out there who will eventually stumble upon this on a basketball forum. And this guy will probably face severe legal action.

That's an insane amount of loyalty to a company that probably doesn't return the favor. If I caught someone ripping off my employer, especially if I wasn't even at work, I'd shrug and go on about my day. I guess I see the cutting into your livelihood argument but the impact isn't big at all.

Also, what's stopping you from reporting the sites that already stream baseball games?

[CrimsonGhost56]

he's no hermanthejava thats for sure

[NAHSTE]

That's an insane amount of loyalty to a company that probably doesn't return the favor.

Insane? This isn't me working at CVS or McDonald's and someone knocking off the cash register. This is an actual company that actually does important (at least in my mind) stuff.

If I caught someone ripping off my employer, especially if I wasn't even at work, I'd shrug and go on about my day.

LOL at shrugging and going about my day. Subscription fees help pay my wage, it paid for the equipment I use in a given day, the computer that sits on my desk, etc. Yeah, the NBA might be asleep at the wheel here but it wouldn't be us. That shit does cut into your bottom line at some point.

If you got paid directly from subscription fees, and someone was skirting the subscription fee of your service and in turn offering it to others on the internet for a monetary fee, I highly doubt you would just shrug and go about your day.

Also, what's stopping you from reporting the sites that already stream baseball games?

There are no such sites that I know of, since our legal team actually does their job, apparently unlike our counterparts at the NBA if this thing lasted all of last season. I have never seen an MLB stream even listed on the handful of sites I stream soccer or basketball games from, and if they do ever hit the site we have people who monitor that shit and take them down.

Allowing people to use your product for free is bad for business, but going even further, allowing someone to steal your product and then sell it to hundreds or even thousands of other people is really bad for business.

If this guy was just running his own free streaming service like firstrow or atdhe that'd be one thing, but he's charging people money for a service he doesn't own the rights to. That's the definition of copyright infringement and I'll be shocked if he isn't popped for it.

[JOHNNYTHECLOWN]

Insane? This isn't me working at CVS or McDonald's and someone knocking off the cash register. This is an actual company that actually does important (at least in my mind) stuff.



LOL at shrugging and going about my day. Subscription fees help pay my wage, it paid for the equipment I use in a given day, the computer that sits on my desk, etc. Yeah, the NBA might be asleep at the wheel here but it wouldn't be us. That shit does cut into your bottom line at some point.

If you got paid directly from subscription fees, and someone was skirting the subscription fee of your service and in turn offering it to others on the internet for a monetary fee, I highly doubt you would just shrug and go about your day.



There are no such sites that I know of, since our legal team actually does their job, apparently unlike our counterparts at the NBA if this thing lasted all of last season. I have never seen an MLB stream even listed on the handful of sites I stream soccer or basketball games from, and if they do ever hit the site we have people who monitor that shit and take them down.

Allowing people to use your product for free is bad for business, but going even further, allowing someone to steal your product and then sell it to hundreds or even thousands of other people is really bad for business.

If this guy was just running his own free streaming service like firstrow or atdhe that'd be one thing, but he's charging people money for a service he doesn't own the rights to. That's the definition of copyright infringement and I'll be shocked if he isn't popped for it.

Honestly, sounds like you're just a blowjob.

[NAHSTE]

Honestly, sounds like you're just a blowjob.

:taconyan:

[Bear Pand]

Insane? This isn't me working at CVS or McDonald's and someone knocking off the cash register. This is an actual company that actually does important (at least in my mind) stuff.

I don't see why it matters if it's McDonalds or the MLB.

If you got paid directly from subscription fees, and someone was skirting the subscription fee of your service and in turn offering it to others on the internet for a monetary fee, I highly doubt you would just shrug and go about your day.

I absolutely would. If I worked for the NFL/MLB/NBA the fact that sites were streaming games on the internet wouldn't bother me at all. Especially not enough to go to my boss about it. Partially because I know I use those sites myself.

There are no such sites that I know of, since our legal team actually does their job, apparently unlike our counterparts at the NBA if this thing lasted all of last season. I have never seen an MLB stream even listed on the handful of sites I stream soccer or basketball games from, and if they do ever hit the site we have people who monitor that shit and take them down.

SMH. This is hypocrisy. How can you justify taking money out of other peoples pockets? So it's ok for you to steal from NBA employees but you'd be outraged if someone did the same thing to you?

If this guy was just running his own free streaming service like firstrow or atdhe that'd be one thing, but he's charging people money for a service he doesn't own the rights to. That's the definition of copyright infringement and I'll be shocked if he isn't popped for it.

No it's the exact same thing to you. In both cases the website is taking away from subscription fees, and in effect taking away from your bottom line...whether or not the site charges for it is irrelevant. In fact sites like firstrow are probably even worse, they probably draw more traffic since they're free, which means even less people paying subscription fees to the MLB. You should've reported firstrow (and any similar sites you come across) a long time ago if you're serious about your stance at all. You should probably also report this service too just off of general principle.

[Point Blank]

It was up all last season just to let you guys know. Probably ain't going anywhere unless someone snitches.

[NAHSTE]

I don't see why it matters if it's McDonalds or the MLB.

SMH. This is hypocrisy. How can you justify taking money out of other peoples pockets? So it's ok for you to steal from NBA employees but you'd be outraged if someone did the same thing to you?

LOL. I personally don't care that this guy is doing what he's doing either, it doesn't affect me in anyway. I was merely pointing out that those that it does affect should rightly have a problem with this and because of that they will probably shut it down soon.

The only reason our company is in business is because we own the exclusive digital distribution rights of baseball games (and a ton of other sports events but that's besides the point). Of course any sane person would want to preserve their company's method of earning revenue. It's irrational to think otherwise.

Anyway, my company already does know about firstrow and atdhe, hence why neither site hosts MLB streams. If, however, someone was advertising on message boards that you could pay them a fee and they would route mlb.tv to them under the table, you're damn right I'd shut it down.

Good luck making it in the real world if you are content with letting people steal from your place of business. Would love to hear you bring up that stance at a job interview.

[Bear Pand]

LOL, except I am not charging other people money to watch the soccer streams I'm pirating (just like there's a difference between me burning a CD that I purchased online, so I can have a disc copy in the car, or burning 50 copies and selling it in Chinatown).

Burning a CD that you purchased online? What? That's a dumb anology. Of course there's a difference between those two things. But what's the difference between you watching streams of basketball and soccer games and someone watching streams of MLB games? You don't feel guilty cause you don't pay for it? Pfft. Those sites you watch streams on are pulling in revenue somehow, probably through advertisements. You're just as bad as someone paying this guy to watch NBA LP for free.

I personally don't care that this guy is doing what he's doing either, it doesn't affect me in anyway. I was merely pointing out that those that it does affect should rightly have a problem with this and because of that they will probably shut it down soon.


The only reason our company is in business is because we own the exclusive digital distribution rights of baseball games (and a ton of other sports events but that's besides the point). Of course any sane person would want to preserve their company's method of earning revenue.

It's irrational to think otherwise.

The effect it has on most NBA employees (specifically the ones that work with NBA tv) is minimal in reality. Not like they're gonna get paid more if the site goes down. Just seems weird to me that someone with very little stake in it, would go out of their way to report it. Like I said in the first post, that's a lot of loyalty to your employer.

Anyway, my company alreaqdy does know about firstrow and atdhe, hence why neither site hosts MLB streams. If, however, someone was advertising on message boards that you could pay them a fee and they would route mlb.tv to them under the table ... I'd certainly give that over to the copyright guys. It's retarded to think otherwise.

This isn't true. Firstrow had the entire world series streamed. I don't watch baseball, I only know this because of people I work with. I'm guessing they stream games all season. Especially considering they have a baseball section and are streaming the MLB network right now (go tell on them)

Good luck making it in the real world if you are content with letting people steal from your place of business. Would love to hear you bring up that stance at a job interview.

I'm not stupid enough to bring up that stance in a job interview. So it's not going to stop me from making it in the real world.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I have no dog in this fight, but the World Series is not part of the MLB PPV package. If FOX was not diligent about taking it down, I don't see why MLB.com (or whoever NAHSTE works for) would be.

[NAHSTE]

Burning a CD that you purchased online? What? That's a dumb anology. Of course there's a difference between those two things. But what's the difference between you watching streams of basketball and soccer games and someone watching streams of MLB games? You don't feel guilty cause you don't pay for it? Pfft. Those sites you watch streams on are pulling in revenue somehow, probably through advertisements. You're just as bad as someone paying this guy to watch NBA LP for free.

I realized the flaw in that analogy and removed it. Anyway, again, I'm not trying to moralize here, I'm just saying from a simple business perspective it is in the NBA's best interest to shut this down. Were it the MLB, I'd have done so without hesitation.

The effect it has on most NBA employees (specifically the ones that work with NBA tv) is minimal in reality. Not like they're gonna get paid more if the site goes down. Just seems weird to me that someone with very little stake in it, would go out of their way to report it. Like I said in the first post, that's a lot of loyalty to your employer.

LOL, that's not the point. The point is that their company exists and makes profit because they have exclusive distribution rights. If you allow your exclusivity to erode you will eventually not have a company. Ask newspapers how that worked out.

This isn't true. Firstrow had the entire world series streamed. I don't watch baseball, I only know this because of people I work with. I'm guessing they stream games all season. Especially considering they have a baseball section and are streaming the MLB network right now (go tell on them)I'm not stupid enough to bring up that stance in a job interview. So it's not going to stop me from making it in the real world.

The MLB Network is not a property of MLB.com. I don't think the World Series is either.

[Bear Pand]

I realized the flaw in that analogy and removed it. Anyway, again, I'm not trying to moralize here, I'm just saying from a simple business perspective it is in the NBA's best interest to shut this down. Were it the MLB, I'd have done so without hesitation.

Yeah it's in the NBA's best interest to shut it down obviously.

I still think any employee that's relatively low on the ladder, would be being overly self-righteous for no reason if they went and reported it. Especially if they go home at night and watch streams of other sports.

[NAHSTE]

Yeah it's in the NBA's best interest to shut it down obviously.

I still think any employee that's relatively low on the ladder, would be being overly self-righteous for no reason if they went and reported it. Especially if they go home at night and watch streams of other sports.

Fair enough. FWIW, every Sunday the entirety of our office has NFL games streaming on firstrow.