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  • TheImmortalGoud
    No longer a noob
    • Jan 2011
    • 1790

    The Bulls aren't winning a title with the current roster. The only shot they have of beating the Heat is to acquire Howard. You give up anything, but Rose.

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    • ralaw
      Posts too much
      • Feb 2009
      • 6663

      In sports I like how people always look at history and try to justify why something will work now. While I think the Bulls should go after Howard I don't think he's the franchise changing player that Wilt, KAP, and Shaq were. However, if Chicago can get Howard they have to. IMO the Magic really want Bynum and some pieces; however, if I was the Lakers I'm not even sure I'd trade Bynum and pieces for Howard.

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      • Primetime
        Thank You Prince
        • Nov 2008
        • 17526

        If you have the chance to get Howard for Bynum and pieces....you ship him ASAP wrapped in bubble wrap so he doesn't blow a knee during shipping.

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        • ralaw
          Posts too much
          • Feb 2009
          • 6663

          Originally posted by Primetime232
          If you have the chance to get Howard for Bynum and pieces....you ship him ASAP wrapped in bubble wrap so he doesn't blow a knee during shipping.
          The pieces the Magic want is Gasol and there in no way I'd trade Bynum (who gets Howard's production and defensive presence) and still have to give up a top 5 PF in the league. Bynum is one healthy season away from changing the oft-injured reputation and he seems to be putting that together this year. Once Kobe gets old Howard would be the lead guy and IMO he doesn't have that type of heart. IMO fans and the media raise Howard to a higher level than what he actually is....I think he's an ideal #2 guy at best.

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          • FirstTimer
            Freeman Error

            • Feb 2009
            • 18729

            Originally posted by ralaw
            In sports I like how people always look at history and try to justify why something will work now. While I think the Bulls should go after Howard I don't think he's the franchise changing player that Wilt, KAP, and Shaq were. However, if Chicago can get Howard they have to. IMO the Magic really want Bynum and some pieces; however, if I was the Lakers I'm not even sure I'd trade Bynum and pieces for Howard.
            He's a top 5 player in the league. Frankly, this year with or without Howard I'm not sure the Bull take down the Heat but too often fans look at this as a one year thing and don't look down the road. Moving forward for the next 5-10 seasons I'd rather have Rose and Howard and put pieces around that than Rose and Noah/Deng and try to cobble together acceptable parts around that.

            The Bulls have movable assets. They need to use them.

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            • FirstTimer
              Freeman Error

              • Feb 2009
              • 18729

              Originally posted by ralaw
              The pieces the Magic want is Gasol and there in no way I'd trade Bynum (who gets Howard's production and defensive presence) and still have to give up a top 5 PF in the league. Bynum is one healthy season away from changing the oft-injured reputation and he seems to be putting that together this year. Once Kobe gets old Howard would be the lead guy and IMO he doesn't have that type of heart. IMO fans and the media raise Howard to a higher level than what he actually is....I think he's an ideal #2 guy at best.
              If true(different discussion) that makes Howard even more of a great fit in Chicago.

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              • Primetime
                Thank You Prince
                • Nov 2008
                • 17526

                I don't think the Lakers are worried about having D12 be a lead guy in LA. There is too much of a drive to play in LA that they'd have no problem getting a huge piece to get D12 back as the #2 guy. Fuck trading both Bynum and Gasol though.

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                • ralaw
                  Posts too much
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 6663

                  Fom Bird to now Kendrick Perkins LeBron has had a tough few days

                  Kendrick Perkins rips LeBron for tweets

                  Kendrick Perkins can live with being dunked on as part of the game. He can even handle being tweeted about being dunked on.

                  But LeBron James' Twitter reaction to Blake Griffin's did-you-see-that dunk over Perkins didn't sit well with the Oklahoma City Thunder center.

                  Perkins found himself in Griffin's career highlight reel when the Los Angeles Clippers forward soared over him, absorbed contact and threw the ball down into the basket, fingers grazing the rim, in the Clippers' 112-100 win Jan. 30.

                  Perkins then found himself on Twitter, where James, among others, could not contain his amazement over what he had seen.

                  "Dunk of the Year! @blakegriffin just dunked on Kendrick Perkins so hard!!! Wow! I guess I'm No. 2 now. Move over #6," James tweeted, apparently referring to his own dunk the day before over Chicago Bulls point guard John Lucas III being relegated behind Griffin's poster-quality jam.

                  Perkins told Yahoo! Sports that he didn't appreciate that.


                  "You don't see Kobe (Bryant) tweeting," Perkins said, according to the report. "You don't see Michael Jordan tweeting. If you're an elite player, plays like that don't excite you.

                  "At the end of the day, the guys who are playing for the right reasons who are trying to win championships are not worrying about one play. They also are not tweeting about themselves talking about going down to No. 2," Perkins added, according to the report. "I just feel [James] is always looking for attention and he wants the world to like him."

                  Perkins told Yahoo! Sports he respected Griffin for not making a spectacle of the moment. But if Griffin goes at the rim again the next time the Clippers and Thunder meet, Perkins said he won't back down.


                  "If I was in the same position, in the same rotation, I'm going to jump again and again and again," Perkins said, according to Yahoo! Sports. "A lot of people are afraid of humiliation or don't know how to handle embarrassment or would even get embarrassed. I don't care."

                  "That's my job," Perkins added, according to the report. "How will my teammates look at me if next time I just back out of the way and just let him dunk when I'm supposed to be defensive-minded, a shot-blocker? That would be a coward move on me. He'd just have to dunk on me again."
                  Kendrick Perkins can live with being dunked on as part of the game. He can even handle being tweeted about being dunked on. But LeBron James' Twitter reaction to Blake Griffin's dunk over Perkins didn't sit well with the Thunder center.

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                  • FedEx227
                    Delivers
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 10454

                    Originally posted by ralaw
                    In sports I like how people always look at history and try to justify why something will work now. While I think the Bulls should go after Howard I don't think he's the franchise changing player that Wilt, KAP, and Shaq were. However, if Chicago can get Howard they have to. IMO the Magic really want Bynum and some pieces; however, if I was the Lakers I'm not even sure I'd trade Bynum and pieces for Howard.
                    He's not the franchise changer like those guys but you can't argue with almost 95% of NBA champions being built around two stars usually (with the exception of Jordan/Pippen) one of those two stars is a post threat.

                    Just to get it out of the way now before someone says: "YOU IDIOT LOOK AT DA PISTONS" the 2004 Pistons were an anomaly. If you want to look at the 1 in 50 that did it a different way to show how it should be done, more power to you.
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                    • FirstTimer
                      Freeman Error

                      • Feb 2009
                      • 18729

                      Originally posted by FedEx227
                      He's not the franchise changer like those guys but you can't argue with almost 95% of NBA champions being built around two stars usually (with the exception of Jordan/Pippen) one of those two stars is a post threat.

                      Just to get it out of the way now before someone says: "YOU IDIOT LOOK AT DA PISTONS" the 2004 Pistons were an anomaly. If you want to look at the 1 in 50 that did it a different way to show how it should be done, more power to you.
                      And that was a bit different too just because of the offense the Bulls ran. Jordan and Pippen were dominant in the post as wings and the offense put them there a lot.

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                      • ralaw
                        Posts too much
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 6663

                        Originally posted by FedEx227
                        He's not the franchise changer like those guys but you can't argue with almost 95% of NBA champions being built around two stars usually (with the exception of Jordan/Pippen) one of those two stars is a post threat.

                        Just to get it out of the way now before someone says: "YOU IDIOT LOOK AT DA PISTONS" the 2004 Pistons were an anomaly. If you want to look at the 1 in 50 that did it a different way to show how it should be done, more power to you.
                        Dallas didn't have a traditional big that could dominate in the low post....neither will Miami this year when they win, although Bosh has his moments and LeBron will occasionaly out athlete/strength a weaker perimeter player. However, I see what you are saing, but 95% of NBA champions were that way because there was a dominant franchise changing big. I get what you are saying and historically it makes perfect sense, but IMO today's league is different and Howard isn't that type of player. Don't get me wrong he's good and a top 5 player in the league, but his skillet isn't that of a frachise changing big. As I said though with Howard the Bulls are closer to winning championship than what they are with Noah, Deng, etc

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                        • FirstTimer
                          Freeman Error

                          • Feb 2009
                          • 18729

                          Originally posted by ralaw
                          Dallas didn't have a traditional big that could dominate in the low post....neither will Miami this year when they win, although Bosh has his moments and LeBron will occasionaly out athlete/strength a weaker perimeter player. However, I see what you are saing, but 95% of NBA champions were that way because there was a dominant frachise changing big. IMO today's league is different and Howard isn't that type of player. Don't get me wrong he's good and a top 5 player in the league, but his skillet isn't that of a frachise changing big.
                          He's defeinetly not as refined on offense as the other bigs that have won ships but in relative terms to the other bigs out there in the league today..I would say he is a franchise changing big.

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                          • ralaw
                            Posts too much
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 6663

                            Originally posted by FirstTimer
                            He's defeinetly not as refined on offense as the other bigs that have won ships but in relative terms to the other bigs out there in the league today..I would say he is a franchise changing big.
                            Him being the best defensive big in the league doesn't make him a franchise changing big. Relative to the other bigs......who else is there? Bynum? Hibbert? That's about it. LOL. When Roy Hibbert is considered a top big the league is certainly deprived at the position.

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                            • FirstTimer
                              Freeman Error

                              • Feb 2009
                              • 18729

                              Originally posted by ralaw
                              Him being the best defensive big in the league doesn't make him a franchise changing big. Relative to the other bigs......who else is there? Bynum? Hibbert? That's about it. LOL. When Roy Hibbert is considered a top big the league is certainly deprived at the position.
                              Howard isn't as bad on offense as he used to be. I meant he was a franchise changing big in general. Not just on defense. He doesn't have a jump sho tyet but his post game is leaps and bounds to where it was 3 years ago.

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                              • Primetime
                                Thank You Prince
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17526

                                Originally posted by ralaw
                                Fom Bird to now Kendrick Perkins LeBron has had a tough few days



                                http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/75...at-dunk-tweets
                                "Oh my God!" Kobe said following the game after walking away from the media scrum at his locker. "OH MY GOD!!" he repeated with a huge grin. "That was really something, wasn't it? That was one of the best plays I've seen him make — and he's made a lot of them.

                                "Did you see how he went up even higher once he (made contact) with Perkins? That was something else."



                                Yes, Kobe did get excited. Quit being butthurt Perkins.

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