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  • Senser81
    VSN Poster of the Year
    • Feb 2009
    • 12804

    Who are your Sweet 16 teams at this moment?

    Field hasn't been determined and brackets haven't been set...but who do you think you'll be picking for the Sweet 16 (in general)? Who are your 1st weekend upsets?

    Here are some of my Sweet 16 teams...

    St Louis - have been impressed by them, sleepah pick

    VCU - would not pick against them

    Duke - two scorers = too much

    Kansas (?) - I always pick them wrong. When I think they are good, they lose in the 1st round. When I pick against them, they go far.

    Indiana - I see them losing in the Sweet 16, but I like Crean as a coach.

    Michigan - Similar to Indiana. Not a great team, but Beilein is a good coach.

    Louisville - I think they are the strongest Big East team.

    G-town - could be an early casualty

    Marquette - underrated

    Ohio State - I think they will peak in the NCAAs

    Michigan St - same as Ohio State

    Florida (?) - an SEC team has to make it, right?

    UCLA (?) - a PAC10 team has to make it, right?

    Miami,FL - I think they are Final Four material


    Upsets:

    Gonzaga - just don't think they are a strong 1 seed

    Pitt - Lundardi has them as a 5-seed...perfect for the typical 12-seed upset

    New Mexico - overrated coach, overrated team

    UNC - how are they even in?

    Syracuse - offensively challenged, could be a 1st round upset
  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
    • 26142

    #2
    Indiana, Michigan, and Miami (in that order) are the best teams i've seen this year. Of the three, I think Miami is the most likely to lose early. I don't see Indiana or Michigan getting knocked off in the early rounds, and think they are locks for the Sweet 16.

    The rest? Who knows. The top 5 Big East teams (Georgetown, Louisville, Marquette, Syracuse, Pitt) all play incredible defense...and all 5 have serious trouble scoring. Chicken or egg? Otto Porter is the only big time elite player on any of those teams. Syracuse looks terrible, Pitt can't shoot, Louisville gets shaky gaurd play (which is scary in the tournament) because Peyton Siva stinks this year, Marquette plays ugly, and Georgetown goes through brutal stretches where only Porter can score.

    I have no read on Gonzaga. Their league is better than people think (BYU & St Mary's, who they beat three times, are very good), but I still don't know what to make of them.

    It will be hard to pick against Duke & Kansas in the early rounds. I'd call them locks for the Sweet 16.

    So I have four locks - Indiana, Michigan, Duke, Kansas. That's all i'm comfortable with. Crazy season.

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    • NAHSTE
      Probably owns the site
      • Feb 2009
      • 22233

      #3
      Peyton Siva has to be like 29 years old at this point, no?

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      • Warner2BruceTD
        2011 Poster Of The Year
        • Mar 2009
        • 26142

        #4
        Originally posted by NAHSTE
        Peyton Siva has to be like 29 years old at this point, no?
        Definitely one of those guys who never seems to graduate. Seems like he was tossing lobs to Pervis Ellison in 1984.

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        • Pitty
          Death, Taxes, Jeff Capel
          • Feb 2009
          • 7541

          #5
          Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
          Indiana, Michigan, and Miami (in that order) are the best teams i've seen this year. Of the three, I think Miami is the most likely to lose early. I don't see Indiana or Michigan getting knocked off in the early rounds, and think they are locks for the Sweet 16.

          The rest? Who knows. The top 5 Big East teams (Georgetown, Louisville, Marquette, Syracuse, Pitt) all play incredible defense...and all 5 have serious trouble scoring. Chicken or egg? Otto Porter is the only big time elite player on any of those teams. Syracuse looks terrible, Pitt can't shoot, Louisville gets shaky gaurd play (which is scary in the tournament) because Peyton Siva stinks this year, Marquette plays ugly, and Georgetown goes through brutal stretches where only Porter can score.

          I have no read on Gonzaga. Their league is better than people think (BYU & St Mary's, who they beat three times, are very good), but I still don't know what to make of them.

          It will be hard to pick against Duke & Kansas in the early rounds. I'd call them locks for the Sweet 16.

          So I have four locks - Indiana, Michigan, Duke, Kansas. That's all i'm comfortable with. Crazy season.
          Top 10 in offensive efficiency, 1st in the BE in field goal %.

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          • Warner2BruceTD
            2011 Poster Of The Year
            • Mar 2009
            • 26142

            #6
            Originally posted by Pitty
            Top 10 in offensive efficiency, 1st in the BE in field goal %.
            I don't care about layups. Can't throw it in the ocean from the outside. Not a single range shooter who scares you, not a single 3 point shooter over 40%. Bottom quarter of the league in three pointers made, ahead of the likes of DePaul. Pitt isn't beating anybody from the outside, it's not what they do. Only Marquette poses less of a threat from the outside. Marquette is like a poor man's Pitt, I have no idea how they've put up such an impressive record with such shooting ineptitude, but that's really the story with all of these teams.

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            • Pitty
              Death, Taxes, Jeff Capel
              • Feb 2009
              • 7541

              #7
              Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
              I don't care about layups. Can't throw it in the ocean from the outside. Not a single range shooter who scares you, not a single 3 point shooter over 40%. Bottom quarter of the league in three pointers made, ahead of the likes of DePaul. Pitt isn't beating anybody from the outside, it's not what they do. Only Marquette poses less of a threat from the outside. Marquette is like a poor man's Pitt, I have no idea how they've put up such an impressive record with such shooting ineptitude, but that's really the story with all of these teams.
              I'm not saying that Pitt has a great chance to make the Sweet 16 this year, in fact I'd say they are more likely to bow out in the second round, but to say they can't shoot is a laughable and poorly researched statement. They don't have a single guy who shoots over 40% from long range, this is true, but they do have 5 players shooting between 35-40% who attempt two or more 3 point field goals a game. So answer this for me, would you rather have one shooter around 41% from deep who is a liability on defense because of his tired and worn out legs, or would you have 4 players shooting around 36% who can be interchanged throughout the game and kept fresh? Also, I like how you conveniently decided to leave out the fact that Pitt is third in the BE in 3PT% when mentioning that they "couldn't throw it in an ocean".

              I know your Pitt hate runs deep, but at least look at the team's statistics before making asinine statements. They are in the bottom quarter of made field goals and three point field goals solely due to the fact they have one of the slowest tempos in all of college basketball, currently sitting at 338th in the country. If you want to criticize the slow tempo of their play, fine, that's understandable as tournament play is much more frantic than the regular season, but because they make 7 less threes per game than Creighton means jack shit.

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              • Senser81
                VSN Poster of the Year
                • Feb 2009
                • 12804

                #8
                Originally posted by Pitty
                I know your Pitt hate runs deep, but at least look at the team's statistics before making asinine statements. They are in the bottom quarter of made field goals and three point field goals solely due to the fact they have one of the slowest tempos in all of college basketball, currently sitting at 338th in the country. If you want to criticize the slow tempo of their play, fine, that's understandable as tournament play is much more frantic than the regular season, but because they make 7 less threes per game than Creighton means jack shit.
                I would assume that, on the face of it, it means that Creighton is starting the game with 21 more points than Pitt. Pitt is also a terrible free throw shooting team.

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                • Pitty
                  Death, Taxes, Jeff Capel
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 7541

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Senser81
                  I would assume that, on the face of it, it means that Creighton is starting the game with 21 more points than Pitt. Pitt is also a terrible free throw shooting team.
                  At least you said something that is actually true, despite the first half of that statement making 0 sense.

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                  • Senser81
                    VSN Poster of the Year
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 12804

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pitty
                    At least you said something that is actually true, despite the first half of that statement making 0 sense.
                    7 X 3 = 21


                    Is it me? Its him, right?

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                    • Pitty
                      Death, Taxes, Jeff Capel
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 7541

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Senser81
                      7 X 3 = 21


                      Is it me? Its him, right?
                      It's you, not understanding how per game statistics work and making bad assumptions. Because Creighton makes 14 threes against the stout defenses of the MVC doesn't mean anything when they play REAL teams.

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                      • Hasselbeck
                        Jus' bout dat action boss
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 6175

                        #12
                        Your 16 is way too chalk IMO .. there is bound to be a few upsets in there.

                        Obviously this is really hard to gauge without a bracket too. Especially since some mid-majors may get favorable draws and others may get shafted.

                        Some potential double digit seeds who could crash the Sweet 16:
                        - South Dakota State (Nate Wolters is the most underrated player in the country IMO)
                        - Colorado (They can rebound and defend, offense is erratic but when they're on they have given good teams fits)
                        - Louisiana Tech (Assuming they win the WAC tourney.. they're a dangerous team likely to land in the 12 or 13 spot)
                        - Boise State (They may get placed in Dayton to play into the 5/12 game)
                        - Akron (Even though they play in the MAC, still a very good team.. with some shades to another MAC school who made a run several years ago - Kent State)
                        - Wichita State (I think they'll be underseeded, maybe even a 12.. but they were a solid team in a pretty tough conference)
                        Originally posted by ram29jackson
                        I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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                        • Senser81
                          VSN Poster of the Year
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 12804

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pitty
                          It's you, not understanding how per game statistics work and making bad assumptions. Because Creighton makes 14 threes against the stout defenses of the MVC doesn't mean anything when they play REAL teams.
                          And I like how Pitt can shoot 80% from the field in their two games against DePaul, then struggle to crack the 60pt mark against the rest of the Big East.

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                          • Rudi
                            #CyCueto
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 9905

                            #14
                            Colorado State will make the Sweet 16.

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                            • Pitty
                              Death, Taxes, Jeff Capel
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 7541

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Senser81
                              And I like how Pitt can shoot 80% from the field in their two games against DePaul, then struggle to crack the 60pt mark against the rest of the Big East.
                              Pitt has failed to hit 60 twice this season, and one was a win. I'm not going to explain tempo again since I did it literally 6 posts ago. Bad troll is bad.

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