The Bulls Would Be Championship Contenders if...

[Senser81]

You think that if the Bulls keep Brand, Artest, and hell lets say Hinrich, that they'll be in position to draft everyone else?

That's like me saying.

"d00dz, imagine if the Celtics kept Chauncey Billups, Joe Johnson, Al Jefferson, Delonte West, and Jeff Green. Then they'd have Cauncey Billups, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Al Jefferson with Delonte West, Joe Johnson, Jeff Green, and Leon Powe off the bench. PWNZORSZZ"

Wow. Just wow. This reminds me of the time on MM when someone said that Mike Tyson was the most overrated boxer in history because he never beat anyone, then in the next sentence said Lennox Lewis was one of the greatest boxers ever because he beat Mike Tyson.

Yeah, the Bulls would have been good with guys like Brand, Artest, Heinrich, Brad Miller, etc., and most likely wouldn't have had top draft spots every year...but thats kinda the whole point. DUH!

[mfbmike]

You guys think they made the right pick selecting Rose over Beasley? Think long term as opposed to just how each are performing right now. Just curious as to you guys opinions.

[Woy]

DARKO MILICIC FTW

Haha, fixed Mike.

[FirstTimer]

You didn't comprehend a word I said did you? haha.

I was saying that, if they had kept all the players they had drafted...there isn't a chance in hell they would have had the opportunity to draft players like Rose, Noah, etc. with those high picks.

Then my Celtics example was to show how ridiculous the hypothetical situation in this topic is haha.

He got your point..He was mocking you for pointing out the obvious.....for the 5th time in this thread. Nice job not comprehending his point.

[ralaw]

You guys think they made the right pick selecting Rose over Beasley? Think long term as opposed to just how each are performing right now. Just curious as to you guys opinions.

IMO Rose was the best pick. The issue is that the Bulls needed a inside scorer, but Beasley isn't really the type of inside scorer they need as he tends to go outside more. Also, at this point in his career he really isn't much of a rebounder. IMO, Beasley is more of a SF without the ballhandling skills. Rose gives you a dynamic floor leader for the next 12 years to build around.

[FirstTimer]

IMO Rose was the best pick. The issue is that the Bulls needed a inside scorer, but Beasley isn't really the type of inside scorer they need as he tends to go outside more. Also, at this point in his career he really isn't much of a rebounder. IMO, Beasley is more of a SF without the ballhandling skills. Rose gives you a dynamic floor leader for the next 12 years to build around.

Exactly. Rose was the easy pick. Hometown kid. Good character. Leader. True point guard.

There were too many question marks around Beasley. What position does he play? Character?(Not a REAL concern but a minor one) will his game translate to Del Negro's system?

Rose was the perfect fit and I think in Beasely they saw a guy with no real position who would need a PG to suceed because he lacks ball handling skills right now. The Bulls didn't really have the pieces around Beasley that he would need to succeed.

In Rose they felt they had an NBA ready PG who they could put with some atheltic big men and some shooters and succeed right away.

[Vinsane]

What if...

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[jags224]

celtics, joe johnson chauncey billups

[Berowsk]

You can't say "If we kept everyone ever we'd be this good"....it's just an unrealistic hypothetical. Not to mention, the players you mentioned are mostly shitty. You keep saying so and so would come off the bench, well who wants to pay Eddie Curry, Ben Gordon AND Kirk Hinrich to come off the bench?

And what team can afford to employ even 2 of those players along with Aldridge, Rose, Artest, and Brand?

This is a dumb hypothetical and a dumb example. A better example would be to use the Phoenix Suns, who really could've kept most of their picks but sold them. They'd have guys like Rajon Rondo, Rudy Fernandez and Sergio Rodriguez if they weren't so cheap.

edit-see dude above me beat me to the point but there's a great Bill Simmons article about this.

An unrealistic hypothetical? Aren't all hypothetical's unrealistic?

You think that if the Bulls keep Brand, Artest, and hell lets say Hinrich, that they'll be in position to draft everyone else?

That's like me saying.

"d00dz, imagine if the Celtics kept Chauncey Billups, Joe Johnson, Al Jefferson, Delonte West, and Jeff Green. Then they'd have Cauncey Billups, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Al Jefferson with Delonte West, Joe Johnson, Jeff Green, and Leon Powe off the bench. PWNZORSZZ"

I wasn't combining drafted players with current players. I was just saying how it would have been cool if they just had players straight out of the draft, no free agents.

You all really missed the point of this thread. It was boredom, speculation, and a hypothetical situation, which NAHSTE does mean it isn't real. It's just a great lineup, there was no reason to start a flame war. 3 pages later.

[NAHSTE]

An unrealistic hypothetical? Aren't all hypothetical's unrealistic?



I wasn't combining drafted players with current players. I was just saying how it would have been cool if they just had players straight out of the draft, no free agents.

You all really missed the point of this thread. It was boredom, speculation, and a hypothetical situation, which NAHSTE does mean it isn't real. It's just a great lineup, there was no reason to start a flame war. 3 pages later.

real =/= realistic.


Your hypothetical is neither, but some hypotheticals manage to be less ridiculous then the one you presented. There are some hypothetical situations that could actually happen in real life. This is not one of them. Hence, unrealistic.

[Senser81]

real =/= realistic.


Your hypothetical is neither, but some hypotheticals manage to be less ridiculous then the one you presented. There are some hypothetical situations that could actually happen in real life. This is not one of them. Hence, unrealistic.

Yeah, the Bulls holding onto Elton Brand is unrealistic, yet the Falcons having a "dream backfield" of Michael Turner and Jamal Anderson is realistic.

[FirstTimer]

Judging by that, it looks like he thought I was serious. Keep trolling, you're the man!

Just don't understand Senser...

As usual you make a post that makes no sense and say soemthing that has laready been said 6 times in the thread by others somehow thinking you made a point and get called out on it.

[FirstTimer]

An unrealistic hypothetical? Aren't all hypothetical's unrealistic?

No, a good hypothetical is realistic and makes sense. Something that makes you think, you know that COULD have happened and would be interesting.

Your hypothetical isn't realistic or plausible in any sense in so many ways.

As mentioned before by me You can't have Curry and Aldridge on the team together. How the hell does a team of Hinirch, Gordon, Artest, Brand, and Aldridge as starters(let alone your bench)end up in the lottery and take Derrick Rose?

Why is Jamal Crawford even on the team? The Bulls didn't draft him.

And on and on.

What you have posted here is a BAD hypothetical.

Yeah, the Bulls holding onto Elton Brand is unrealistic, yet the Falcons having a "dream backfield" of Michael Turner and Jamal Anderson is realistic.

Come one Senser, you know that was a joke.

[ralaw]

In 2007, who seems like a bust now and probably will stay a bust, they selected Joakim Noah.

How is Noah a bust? I'm getting tired of hearing and reading this everywhere. He was drafted 9th overall and if you look at history not many 9th overall picks are doing much better.[ I know, I know some smart guy will point to Igoudala or Stoudemire as 9th overall picks and claim their better, but please get the point.]

Past the top 2-3 picks the NBA draft is full of guys who are role players jut like Noah. Every high draft pick isn't going to be a superstar. People make it seem as if Noah had these huge expectations coming into the league when almost every "draft expert" knew he wouldn't be anything more than a role player. At this point in his career Noah is doing what was expected of him coming out of college - 6 points, 7 rebounds and a block a game are decent given the crop of bigmen coming into the league today.

[Senser81]

Come one Senser, you know that was a joke.

Yeah, I know it was a joke, but its two completely different situations. No one is saying 'what if Jayson Williams hadn't been injured', but thats the analogy that was drawn with Jamal Anderson.