How to Get Rid of Tanking in the NBA

[Xixak]

Bad idea nvm.

[Primetime]

Yeah let's expand the already 18 month playoffs.

[Argath]

So instead of rewarding the worst team in the NBA that needs the pick, you reward the team that's on the cusp of the playoffs already.


The rich get richer and poor get poorer.

[Primetime]

But the odds favor the best teams so it makes no sense. It also needs a tie breaker which would likely be record which still results in tanking. This plan is going nowhere and hurting more than helping anything.

[Argath]

Single elimination so there's no guarantee that the best team wins the tournament.

How many times in NCAA tournament history has the last placed 16 seed beat the #1 overall seed? Twice? Maybe?

Sure anything can happen in single elimination but 9.9/10 times the worst team is not going to get the #1 pick.

The system isn't broken right now, no need to fix it. Let teams tank, there's absolutely no guarantee they'll get the #1 pick.

[NAHSTE]

*This is kind of an adapted version of Bill Simmons' "Fun as Hell" Tournament.

WE DIDN'T REALIZE

[Obst]

How many times in NCAA tournament history has the last placed 16 seed beat the #1 overall seed? Twice? Maybe?

Sure anything can happen in single elimination but 9.9/10 times the worst team is not going to get the #1 pick.

The system isn't broken right now, no need to fix it. Let teams tank, there's absolutely no guarantee they'll get the #1 pick.

Or never. But comparing Vermont and North Carolina to the Sixers and Blazers isn't close at all.

[G-men]

This doesn't prevent tanking at all. In fact, it will just make better teams tank. All those good teams in the west that were fighting for that last playoff spot last year are now gonna be fighting to miss the playoffs so they can be the top seed and win the #1 pick as a 50 win team. The Celtics would be fucking ecstatic this upcoming season if that was the rule. They don't have to make their team suck that bad and can still get Andrew Wiggins? Sign every GM in the NBA up.

[Villain]

Also why does the worst team in the league deserve the best pick or one of the best picks?

If you keep fielding a team that continuously finishes last in this tournament, maybe you should rethink your strategy... or maybe you just don't deserve a team.

Argath's logic is so backwards as usual. The goal of this isn't to prevent the worst teams from getting the top pick, it's to prevent teams from tanking for it. It forces all 30 teams to try and field a competent roster so we don't have to watch Miami run through teams like Charlotte before the first quarter's over.

You are probably the worst poster on this site right now.

[Argath]

Also why does the worst team in the league deserve the best pick or one of the best picks?

Uh maybe to promote competition? So the same 16-20 teams aren't always in the playoffs while the other 10-14 never get better? You know.. In order to not isolate 1/3 of the leagues fan base..

This might actually be one of the dumbest statements ever posted on this site.

If you keep fielding a team that continuously finishes last in this tournament, maybe you should rethink your strategy... or maybe you just don't deserve a team.

So we should punish a team for finishing last instead of trying to level the playing field and help them get better. That makes a ton of sense. Rethink their strategy? The only strategy this would change would create even more inflated Free Agent contracts as he bottom feeders become desperate to get any talent to their team. Jesus this is dumb.

And to your last point.. so if a team gets decimated by injury and finishes in the bottom 10, we should take away their team? Should we take away the Celtics if they suck for 2-3 years? How about the Lakers? I take back my previous comment. THIS is the dumbest statement made on VSN. Why don't we just get the Winner of the Championship the #1 pick? Then nobody would ever tank for anything!

Argath's logic is so backwards as usual. The goal of this isn't to prevent the worst teams from getting the top pick, it's to prevent teams from tanking for it. It forces all 30 teams to try and field a competent roster so we don't have to watch Miami run through teams like Charlotte before the first quarter's over.

My logic is ass backwards? LOL

It would result in the same 20 teams in the playoffs/top5 picks in the draft every single year. It would be more boring than it already is. You would have such a huge disparity between the top of the league and the bottom of the league.

How would this help the Charlotte bobcats at all? With this logic they would never have a top5 pick. We would see the same 10 bottom feeders get run over by EVERY team rather than just the Heat. Are you even thinking about this?


Holy shit you are fucking retarded.

[Argath]

Or never. But comparing Vermont and North Carolina to the Sixers and Blazers isn't close at all.

You enact this policy and wait 3 years then well see how far off the comparison is.

[Glenbino]

Or never. But comparing Vermont and North Carolina to the Sixers and Blazers isn't close at all.

I guess someone hasn't seen the 76ers roster for 2013-2014.

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[KNUBB]

I like this better

The top draft positions will be awarded based on points earned after playoff elimination. Once a team is officially out of the playoff race, it starts the clock on amassing points toward its draft position. Bad teams still get an advantage (because they're eliminated earlier), but now the emphasis is on winning, not just on riding out the string.

[Villain]

If you don't think that giving the number one pick to a historically bad team can't turn them around, then

 

 

Honestly, I don't even see tanking as a big issue in the NBA. Having the worst record doesn't guarantee the first overall pick so there's not as much of an incentive to finish dead last as there is in say, the NFL.



To have a playoff for the first overrall pick is laughably retarded. Can you imagine Orlando or Charlotte trying to survive a tournament against Utah last season? The Jazz would've just steamrolled right through all those shitty teams and gotten that first pick.

One-and-done doesn't make it "anyone's to win" as you seem to think it does. It does make it a crapshoot, but even with that type of wild nature the really bad teams will still lose more than the not as bad teams or the relatively good teams who just missed the playoffs.

Honestly, you're telling me that you think a consolation playoff will be fair to a 20-win club? You legitimately think that a genuinely bad team will be able to luck their way through a one-and-done tournament more often than not? If you have a playoff of the bottom 16, the teams that finished at the higher end of that spectrum would win that tournament wayyyyy more often than the teams at the bottom.

But no, your logic is flawless. Those teams just need to CHANGE THEIR WAYS or, better yet, we should just remove them from the NBA!!! :ley:

[Xixak]

I think this would've gone over better if I asked someone else to post it.

Every post I make is flagged as "retarded" before it's even read. If the post is even somewhat controversial, then that makes things worse.

It's my own fault though I've built up a bad e-rep.