Hall of Fame Probablility

[Maestro]

QFT.

Not like Wade hasn't won a title or anything. Not like he's a scoring champion. Not like he is capable of having a Jordan like year.

Mo Williams though... What a fucking hall of famer. What was he again? Backup allstar this year right?

Wade only started for the allstar team...

I don't see how LeBron = Guaranteed HOF, but Wade doesn't even have a .0005 or whatever percent chance.

Add a finals MVP to Wade's list.

[Esjay]

The top 6 are fine with me. All 6 are complete locks, obviously.. I do think Jason Kidd should be a lock and in front of Nash, though. After that I have serious problems with this list.

How is Ray Allen not ahead of Tracy McGrady?

Why is Vince Carter in front of Grant Hill?

Jason Richardson in front of Dikembe?

No way.

[Deviant]

Why is Vince Carter in front of Grant Hill?

Because VC's career is shitting on Grant Hill's. Grant doesn't/never scored like VC did, he's not a better shooter that VC, he's not a better defender, and in their primes, VC was far more electrifying.

Also, Grant Hill still can't do 20/5/5 like VC still can. People keep saying VC has fallen, yet his numbers really say otherwise. Carter's value is much higher than Grant Hill's. VC > Grant Hill makes perfect sense.

[A Tasty Burgerr]

If the player's predicted probability of election was greater than or equal to 0.5, I predicted that he was in the Hall of Fame. Of the 78 players in the Hall of Fame, 63 were correctly classified (80.8%) and 15 were not (19.2%). Of the 590 players not in the Hall of Fame, 583 were correctly classified (98.8%) and 7 were not (1.2%). Overall, 646 of the 668 players (96.7%) were correctly classified by the model.

Pretty impressive considering how simple the formula is

[dell71]

Everyone griping about D-Wade not being on here have missed one very simple piece of the formula - it only counts players who have played at least 400 games. Wade is still a bit shy. Rest assured, when he crosses that mark he'll be pretty high up on the list.

And Stackhouse never won a scoring title.

[CB4]

What about McDyess didn't he have a couple good 20/10 years.

[Kuzzy Powers]

Everyone griping about D-Wade not being on here have missed one very simple piece of the formula - it only counts players who have played at least 400 games. Wade is still a bit shy. Rest assured, when he crosses that mark he'll be pretty high up on the list.

And Stackhouse never won a scoring title.

Not quite, but he was damn close. Stack was a machine that year.

[A Tasty Burgerr]

Thanks for pointing that out dell, I didn't think about Wade having less than 400 games.

Gordon hasn't even been an all star

[stevsta]

gilbert arenas for the HoF.

yet you trade him from your franchise lol

[Umfer]

I think Marbury is way to high on that list lol Scrub

[Esjay]

Because VC's career is shitting on Grant Hill's. Grant doesn't/never scored like VC did, he's not a better shooter that VC, he's not a better defender, and in their primes, VC was far more electrifying.

Also, Grant Hill still can't do 20/5/5 like VC still can. People keep saying VC has fallen, yet his numbers really say otherwise. Carter's value is much higher than Grant Hill's. VC > Grant Hill makes perfect sense.

The only reason VC's career is 'shitting' on Grant Hills is because of Hills injuries. In his Detroit days Grant Hill was twice the player VC has ever been.

Who cares if Carter was more electrifying? He's also soft and Hill was a better defender before he got hurt.

Hill > Carter.

[dell71]

I think Marbury is way to high on that list lol Scrub

It's a statistical formula & statistically Starbury's had a good career. He's averaged over 20ppg & 8 apg 7 times each, made the All-Rookie Team (1st team), a couple All-NBA teams (3rd team, twice) & a couple of All Star Games. He's also 20th all time in total assists and 15th in assists per game. So stat-wise, he's probably in the right spot.

[FirstTimer]

Mutombo IMO should be in the HOF no doubt.
-4 time defensive NBA player of the year.
-Lead the NBA in RPG twice and in total rebounds 4 times.
-Lead the league in blocks per game 3 times and 5 times in total blocks.
-8 time All Star

People also forget that he was a pretty good offensive player. Until he went to NJ in teh tail end of his career he was easily over 10ppg.

I don't see how he doesn't get in in all honesty.

Kidd IMO is a 100% lock. Should be easily above Nash in that regard.

Penny no.

[dell71]

Mutombo IMO should be in the HOF no doubt.
-4 time defensive NBA player of the year.
-Lead the NBA in RPG twice and in total rebounds 4 times.
-Lead the league in blocks per game 3 times and 5 times in total blocks.
-8 time All Star

People also forget that he was a pretty good offensive player. Until he went to NJ in teh tail end of his career he was easily over 10ppg.

I don't see how he doesn't get in in all honesty.

Kidd IMO is a 100% lock. Should be easily above Nash in that regard.

Penny no.

I wouldn't say no doubt on the HOF but I agree he deserves serious consideration.

Again, with this being a statistically based formula I can see how Nash has a slightly higher probability. It's simple he won 2 MVPs. That said, I do believe Kidd is better and I think both guys are locks.

[FirstTimer]

I wouldn't say no doubt on the HOF but I agree he deserves serious consideration.

Again, with this being a statistically based formula I can see how Nash has a slightly higher probability. It's simple he won 2 MVPs. That said, I do believe Kidd is better and I think both guys are locks.

Carrying two marginal teams to the NBA Finals>Nash's two MVP's IMO

As for Mutombo what kind of argument is there for him not getting in? Lack of offensive production?