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Originally posted by ram29jackson
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I think its going to be a long, long time before someone in the NFL is as overrated as Michael Vick. The Falcons draft Vick instead of LaDainian Tomlinson. Strike one. Vick is basically a black version of Bobby Douglass...he never figures out how to pass and he never can produce against a decent defense. He never really wins anything, but his mediocre W-L record is constantly brought up to take focus away from his inability to pass. Strike two. Then, when he leaves his franchise in disgrace, the team finally starts winning consistently. Strike three.Comment
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Because facts are facts. And I'm not even ripping on Vick, I'm ripping on all the people who thought he was good. Vick is a disgrace no doubt, but its incomprehensible to me that people are still talking about the guy as coming back to the NFL and being a good QB...when he was never a good QB in the first place.
Its people like you who are the problem...taking any negative comment about Vick and making it personal.Comment
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Christ,
this is exactly what I was saying, chill the hell out.
I don't think Vick was a disgrace to football on the field, as you obviously do. Granted, I don't think he was a good quarterback, I think he was alright, nothing special, but he wasn't bad. the guy helped his team win, and in the end that's all that really matters.
I personally don't think Vick will ever walk on an NFL football field ever again. He's older now, the legs more then likely are nothing like they were, and on top of that he's a PR nightmare because of the obvious.
if I were a GM, this is the LAST guy I'd want on my team, Wildcat offense or not, there are plenty of kids in college who can throw the ball a mile and are just as fast as Vick.Comment
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Uhh really?
He's a bust as a No 1 pick. Especially seeing as the Falcons essentially passed on Tomlinson for him.
Marginal QB that refused to learn the game. Seemed to have to big of an ego to allow himself t be coached. Primadonna personality in that regard.
Then he gets sent to Federal Prison.
How did he NOT set himself up to be shit on?
I think he was referring him to being a disgrace off the field.Comment
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WTF is your problem? I make a post talking about how Vick's football accomplishments are overrated, and your response is to say that Vick must have raped me as a kid. Then you have the gall to tell me to "chill the hell out". Again, its people like you that I am referring to. Get your tongue out of Vick's ass.
What are you talking about? When did I say Vick was a 'disgrace to football on the field'? Seriously, how can you make this stuff up? Vick OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY is a disgrace because of his off-the-field stuff...which also OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY had an effect on his on-the-field performance because OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY its hard to play from a jail cell.
Dude, you're a fucking retard. Stop posting in this thread. Thanks.Last edited by Senser81; 06-12-2009, 09:44 AM.Comment
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Vick isn't a bust,
a bust is Ron Dayne, not Mike Vick, yea, a first round pick could have been better, yes, Atlanta passed on one of the greatest runningback in the last decade for an off the field fuck up.
but, the off the field fuck up helped his team win, and even went to the NFC title game.
Label him as a bust if you want, the guy won some big games.
He wasn't good, but he wasn't bad, and he was fun to watch.Comment
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your right, you never said Vick was a disgrace to football on the field.
I did a poor job of wording there.
I was trying to say that no matter what Vick had done on the gridiron, you come off as if you believe he is arguably one of the most terrible quarterbacks to ever walk on the field.
my response was, I don't think he was bad, I don't think he was good either.
off the field wise there's no point in talking about it, the guy went to prison, what more do you want from him?Comment
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Yes he is a bust. You expect more from a QB who was supposed to carry your franchise for a decade, change the QB position, and win you championships. Instead you got a mediocore win %, he never progressed, you made ONE NFC Championship game, he's had a mediocore career so far and had a fall from grace the likes of which have never been seen in the NFL.
Vick is a bust.
So what? A lot of marginal QB's have won big games. Hell, Rex Grossman went to a Super Bowl, and had some good games in the playoffs for the Bears.
Sorry, not what I want the description of my No 1 overall draft pick to be in 7 years. Bust bust bust.Comment
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Which ones?
I love how Vick fanboys such as yourself always bring up the "he made the NFC title game". One, its damning praise because the NFC title game wasn't even competitive as Vick played really bad. Two, its not really that much of an accomplishment when you realize that the Falcons basically got a bye to the title game because they had to defeat the 8-8 Rams (a team that gave up nearly 100 more points than they scored and were probably the worst playoff team in NFL history) to get there. Vick threw for a whopping 82 yards against the Rams.Comment
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