Falcons release Vick

[FirstTimer]

yes

Rex Grossman, his 73.2 passer rating, his 3 interceptions and his 3 fumbles make him the guy that lead Chicago through the playoffs.

thanks for clarifying that.

vick had a 125.5 rating against the rams in his divisional game, along with rushing for 120 yards. and throwing 2 touchdowns.

but he, in fact, did not lead his team to a win that game.

okay. I get it now.

EDIT -

no that's wrong,

Vick leading his team to win that game, apparently equates to what Grossman did in the playoffs in 06

there.

Do you even remember watching the Bears in the 2006 playoffs?

Grossman made some huge plays for the Bears, especially in the Seattle game. The defense after Week 14 or so gave up 20+ points regularly the rest of the season and was not as dominate as they were early on.

Rex played very good football in the NFC Playoffs.

LOL at using Mike Vick's passer rating against the Rams. He threw for 82 fucking yards. That's like holding up his passer efficiency "title" in college when he threw for 12TD's and 5 INT's.

Grossman>>>Vick in the playoffs.

[ThunderHorse]

Come on! I agree that the shining accomplishment in Vick's career was defeating the 8-8 Rams in the divisional round of the playoffs, but stop pretending like the Rams were the 1978 Steelers. The Rams were horrible. They were so bad that Vick threw for only 82 yards and they still got pounded.

Again, if you are just going to tell half-truths, then just STFU because this has already been covered 100 times.

Right, because the 9-7 Seahawks in 2006 were a much better team.

[FirstTimer]

Right, because the 9-7 Seahawks in 2006 were a much better team.

Well let's see. I would say they were.

They won their division and had already beaten the Cowboys the previous week.

The Rams were 8-8, widely considered one of the worst teams in history to make the playoffs....and

Then the next week the Bears and Rex went on to beat the 10-6 New Orleans Saints.

[FirstTimer]

What I find completely hilarious about this entire thread and Mike Vick debate in general is this:

For all of Vick's regular season "success" you can barely say he was a better QB than Jay Fiedler.

For all of Vick's post season "success" you can barely debate that Vick was a better QB than Rex Grossman.

Vick fanboys don't even realize this when they are having these discussions.

I love it.

[j.hen]

thanks for trying userpick, you cant argue with these two though. They remind me of a teacher I had who would always be 100% bias in every argument and make shit up just to be right.


Vick's stats his final year in the league:
2,500 yards passing 20 TDs 13 INTs and 1,000+ rushing yards

To say Vick was a bust is just stupid, the guy won games while in Atlanta and brought something different to every game. You never really felt like the game was over when he was playing, like he always had some trick up his sleeve.

The play against the Vikings in OT, The run against Carolina where he dives and practically flys into the endzone, The TD run against the Saints where he waves his hand over the pylon while going out of bounds... I grew up watching this shit and I'm glad Vick played in Atlanta and gave the sport some amazing plays. I'd take Vick's roller coaster ride in ATL over LT.

...not to mention if Vick wouldnt have fucked up then the Thomas Dimitroff/Mike Smith/Matt Ryan/Michael Turner combo would never have been.

[ThunderHorse]

I don't understand the label as Vick Fanboy, Sensor has tagged me with it before, it would be similar to me calling someone a Vick hater, when it's just someone debating how they feel about a subject.

anyway, I feel Vick's career was more of a success then a failure, or even an average career.

The kid could play, and he was the best in NFL history at doing what he did, hands down, best scrambling quarterback to ever play the game aside from Cunningham, difference was Cunningham could at least throw a football.

I'll leave it at that, it's clear no one is going to be moved on the subject, like any other debate.

[ThunderHorse]

...not to mention if Vick wouldnt have fucked up then the Thomas Dimitroff/Mike Smith/Matt Ryan/Michael Turner combo would never have been.

that's your best bet for a SB right there.

a Healthy Michael Turner is one of the scariest things I've ever seen in my life.

[Senser81]

thanks for trying userpick, you cant argue with these two though. They remind me of a teacher I had who would always be 100% bias in every argument and make shit up just to be right.

Have you read any of the postings in this thread? What have I "made up"? I'm am stating facts, going into the details of what actually happened. What I get in response is "Vick 'led' his team to the playoffs 'multiple' times".

Seriously?

You never really felt like the game was over when he was playing, like he always had some trick up his sleeve.

Huh? I remember one game in his career when Vick actually brought the Falcons back from a deficit...it was against Carolina. Otherwise, it was basically the opposite of what you said. You knew right away whether or not the Falcons were going to win or lose with Vick. The game was either going to be an easy win for Atlanta or they would get trounced. Even when the Falcons went 11-5 with Vick (one of their 2 winning seasons during Vick's 6-year reign), they still were losing games by scores of 56-10 and 27-0.

[Senser81]

Umm.......Well he took the Falcons to NFC Championship one year, somewhere the Falcons haven't been in a while.

Umm...well thats because the Falcons still had to retain Vick after appearing in the NFC Championship. Too bad Matt Ryan wasn't born sooner, eh?

[j.hen]

Huh? I remember one game in his career when Vick actually brought the Falcons back from a deficit...it was against Carolina.

Since thats the only game you remember that he brought them back then that must of been the only time he did it then.

[Senser81]

Since thats the only game you remember that he brought them back then that must of been the only time he did it then.

Prove me wrong. State some facts. YOU were the one who said that the Falcons were never out of a game with Vick...tell me how many comebacks he led.

BBIB: Vick was great passer.

Me: No, he wasn't.

BBIB: WTF? So Vick wasn't a great passer just because you say so?

Me: Groan.

[killgod]

Prove me wrong. State some facts. YOU were the one who said that the Falcons were never out of a game with Vick...tell me how many comebacks he led.

didn't he have one awesome TD run vs the vikings in overtime?


other than that I believe I've read a stat saying like 3/4 of points scored with Vick under centre came either tied or in the lead....

[j.hen]

Alright lets look at his stats in his last season:

Passing


Rushing



Looks like he scores most of his points when his team is behind to me.

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Brian Bosworth

Those 2 words are the only sensible thing youve said all thread.

[Senser81]

Alright lets look at his stats in his last season:

Passing


Rushing



Looks like he scores most of his points when his team is behind to me.

LOL at Vick getting sacked 12 times in 68 passing attempts when 'ahead'. Thats disgusting.

Still doesn't show how many points Atlanta scores while Vick is under center, and only gives 1 year of data, and doesn't show how many come-from-behind wins Vick has led Atlanta to.

Nice try.