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Originally posted by raiderfan7
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Nah, he just catches more ball in the Steelers offense. He's a possesion guy on a run first team.So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.
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1. Larry Fitzgerald
2. Andre Johnson
3. Steve Smith
4. Calvin Johnson
5. Brandon Marshall
7. Reggie Wayne
8. Anquan Boldin
9. Santonio Holmes
10. Roddy WhiteSo, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.
-Alan AragonComment
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He'll finish with better numbers than Michael Irvin, who is in. Add in a superbowl MVP, he'll be in. Sorry.Originally posted by mtkSo, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.
-Alan AragonComment
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I knew I was forgetting somebody.Originally posted by raiderfan7So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.
-Alan AragonComment
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irvin got in because he was a cowboy...that is all.Comment
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Didn't Mike get in first ballot? Either way, the effect I was going for, is that he's playing with WR that will be in the HOF, along with a pro bowl TE, on a running team. We saw what happens when he's the #1 guy.Originally posted by mtkSo, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.
-Alan AragonComment
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Willie Parker used to play behind Jerome bettis, but was a better back.Originally posted by raiderfan7So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.
-Alan AragonComment
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Bullshit! He made it in because he did something that not a lot of WR's do now a days. He got physical no matter what. Had he never been injured he would have had an even better resume to get into the HOF. Doing things that aren't necessarily in your job description makes you a better player than the one who just runs out there and catches.
I'm not gonna go into an argument of why I think Irvin is a HOFer. He deserves to be in there end of story.
Originally posted by Tailback UComment
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More like before Willie got a shot.Originally posted by raiderfan7So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.
-Alan AragonComment
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Irvin= Most dominant WR not named Rice for a long period of time in the 90s.
Sharpe and Carter have there backers and rightfully so. Pun intended Irvin was a playmaker. 3 superbowls and the guy was an all time great big game performer.
Too many people have this delusional idea that all he did was muscle some guy and catch a short pass and fall down. The guy was unstoppable in intermediate routes better than any WR since then. Was fantastic at the deep ball and running after the catch. His YPC is higher than deep ball Randy Moss and almost 3 yards a catch higher than Marvin Harrison.
Going against Darrel Green , Aenas Williams , Eric Allen 6 times a season and routinely facing the eras toughest defenses multi times a year makes him a HOF player.
If he could chew up defenses facing tougher rules , MUCH tougher CBs , and top 10 defenses 6 times a year knocking his credentials belittles any WR today who have cupcake secondaries in front of them.
Hines Ward is a great player , very good WR. But he isnt top 10 anymore , nor has he been in the discussion or level of dominance as the leagues best the way Irvin was.
They do however have similar physical styles ,unselfish play , and championship resumes.
At the end of they day much as I love the guy I likely wouldnt put him(Ward) in the top 3 best WRs of the decade. Moss/TO/Harrison/Holt would be in before him.
Youd be delusional to not put Irvin in the top 3 wrs of the 90s.
Lastly anyone putting Santonio Holmes over Moss as to be under the influence.
Putting Ward top 10 is being sentimental.Best reason to have a license.
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Again, stats do not tell the whole story. The only reason his numbers were huge in the superbowl is because Hines wasn't a factor. If he's the number 1 guy, he will put up big numbers. He makes huge, clutch plays all year long. I would take him over all but a handful of receivers in the league, including Owens, and White.Originally posted by packabacka19So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.
-Alan AragonComment
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BTW, White's numbers mean dick to me, because he's playing against JV defenses all year.So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.
-Alan AragonComment
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The Rams, The Chiefs... etc... Most of the teams he plays are ranked 20 or below in team defense.Originally posted by packabacka19So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.
-Alan AragonComment
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