Will Devin Hester.....

[Senser81]

Someone even said he doesn't get separation - really?

Oh, he DOES get separation? Really?

Unless he is running straight downfield, Hester is tentative running his pass routes because he doesn't know what the hell is going on. Several times last season the Bears wouldn't even have Hester run a pass route...at the snap of the ball he'd stand at the LOS, and if Orton saw no one open he'd dump it off to a stationary Hester. As someone else said, if all you can do is run downfield in a straight line, even the slowest DBs can cover you. If you don't believe me, how many of Hester's 51 catches last year went for 40+ yards? 1?

[FirstTimer]

I agree with this, except for the end - not sure who would be a better option - Davis? God please no.

Bennett, Iglesias, hell IMO Rideau would be a better option as a #1 guy. Hester just isn't a No. 1. You even said so yourself in the Bears offseason thread.

But all this talk like he doesn't have the talent, or, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE for him to do well is retarded IMO. Someone even said he doesn't get separation - really?

1. Everyone knows he has talent. The problem is that it's not talent geared for being a WR. Sure he's fast but that's about it from the WR standpoint. Even then one of his biggest problems is learning how to harness the speed for WR. He has a problem knowing how fast to run to break in and out of routes and essentially use that speed he has properly at the position.

2. He does have trouble getting seperation.

Oh, he DOES get separation? Really?

Unless he is running straight downfield, Hester is tentative running his pass routes because he doesn't know what the hell is going on. Several times last season the Bears wouldn't even have Hester run a pass route...at the snap of the ball he'd stand at the LOS, and if Orton saw no one open he'd dump it off to a stationary Hester. As someone else said, if all you can do is run downfield in a straight line, even the slowest DBs can cover you. If you don't believe me, how many of Hester's 51 catches last year went for 40+ yards? 1?

And that one was a short slant against Minny he broke for a long gain.

To be fair though too Orton missed Hester on a few deep passes last year because of Orton's lack of accuracy down the field. Nevertheless, Hester for as fast as he is has never shown to get good seperation from DB's consistantly.

[FirstTimer]

So you're saying he's incapable of making sharp cuts and getting off the defender? lol

Maybe you think you didn't see him do it last year, but he did. In any game where we needed a drive, Hester was the guy getting open - whether he did it on a short, in route, or the dreaded fly route.

The problem was it was too often against soft coverage, bad coverage, and not consistant enough.

[FirstTimer]

I just think he needs more of a chance before being tossed aside. I've said before that he'd be a lethal weapon as a slot receiver, but given the lack of WR's on the Bears' roster, I really can't blame them for pushing him to be more. I think eventually we'll land a solid number one, and then Hester will be utilized better - it's fairly obvious that even the Bears management (who is mildly retarded) knows this - they were trying for Boldin in the draft and just recently stopped pursuing Plaxico. Do you think we were gonna bring one of those guys in and make them Hester's backup? lol

Ok so if it's ok for Bears brass to obviously not be sold on Hester as a #1 what is so wrong with me repeatedly echoing the same sentiment?

Until we get our number one, Hester will be it - and with someone who can actually OVERtrhow him as QB, I think he's got a good chance at filling in nicely.

Also - I didn't see Hester having separation problems last year. Route-running problems sure, but the routes he had down he was definitely getting separation.

He had multiple routes down?

They're showing the Bears/Packers game from December last year every now and again on NFLN - you should check it out some time. Hester gets separation.

You should watch more games too. I already stated Hester can get seperation. The problem is he doesn't consistantly do it....because everyone knows what he can/can't do and plays to it.

:jimshake:

C'mon now... you can't stick someone you know nothing about at #1. And I'm sure Hester knows the routes better than any of those guys yet.

Yeah because we know a whole lot about Hester as a #1. 600yds and 3 TD's Yippee. Fact is, those guys are conditioned, programmed, trained, designed, built, etc for teh role of a #1 while Hester isn't. I'm not saying those guys are studs but their skill sets are more intune with what a #1 should be. They are in the least at least true WR's and not converted KR/CB.

In time, I think Iglesias could be it, but he's got to prove he's the man for the job first.

What better way to prove than to have him actually play the position and show you what he can do from it..................

[FirstTimer]

Umm... let him play in the slot for a while? And let Bennett play #2 for a while. If it all works out, hopefully they can move Bennett to #1, Iglesias to #2, and Hester to #3, and get him back on kickoffs. But for NOW, Hester would logically have a better understanding of the routes and has the most experience - you've gotta go with that until the other guys prove they're ready.

How can you assume Hester has a better grasp? Bennett has spent the last two years learning all 3 wideout positions. How can you just move Hester to the slot and assume he will know the playbook whenhe had enough trouble just knowing the #1 last year? Your argument is that Hester is the #1 until other guys prove they can play it......by playing other WR positions.It just doesn't add fore me, especially seeing as Hester has been less than impressive in two seasons as a WR and has really done nothing to earn the un questioned #1 WR that the Bears have seemingly bestowed upon him.

Nothing. But it's getting annoying.

Then ignore my posts.

[FirstTimer]

Because he has actual on-field experience. If one of those guys can come on the field and prove he's better, then that's that. But to start with, I think they're right to go with Hester... unless we land Marshall or Boldin (I can dream).

He has Mushin leading him around on a career day tour by the hand and Orton missing him on a bunch of skinny posts and fly patterns. On the field experience doesn't neccessarily equate to him being the best choice for the job. I understand why you'd want to go with that but not sure who the Bears are trying to kid(themselves maybe) saying Hester is a legit #1.