Jacobs: Romo Isn't That Good

[Rayman]

New sig for you guys since my other one pissed so many of you off.

Consider it a disclaimer :D

[RyanLeaf16]

I am so tired of hearing about how someone "can't win a big game." Big games usually involve two of the top teams in the league. Meaning, its tough to win a big game. Just because the guy has not won a Super Bowl or a playoff game does not mean he is a bad quarterback.

Some fans seem to think that it's easy to win in the NFL. It's not. All the more reason to respect the teams, and coaches, who can do it on a consistent basis. Now, that isn't to say that Romo is free of criticisms. But, the numbers he has put up and the way he has performed show that he is a good quarterback and not an overrated one.

[steeljake]

I am so tired of hearing about how someone "can't win a big game." Big games usually involve two of the top teams in the league. Meaning, its tough to win a big game. Just because the guy has not won a Super Bowl or a playoff game does not mean he is a bad quarterback.

Some fans seem to think that it's easy to win in the NFL. It's not. All the more reason to respect the teams, and coaches, who can do it on a consistent basis. Now, that isn't to say that Romo is free of criticisms. But, the numbers he has put up and the way he has performed show that he is a good quarterback and not an overrated one.

lol... your a dopey bitch arent you? i guess i should have know with a name like ryan leaf, and whats worse is you had a choice and still used it...


romo cant win a big game, thats fact, the nfl is full of elite atheletes, but only the best of tehbest will win, and only they can be called great. romo is not a great, he is an ok qb among a group of elite atheletes. would romo be a bad ass on a college team? yes. but in the nfl romo is just your average cignal caller who chokes when it counts the most. guys like eli and ben both have succeeded at the highest level so when people say they are better than romo, this is not opinion, it is fact.

are you the real ryan leaf? you sure cry like he does.

[Rayman]

No one ever said he wasn't good. Everyone is just showing you why you should hop off his dick and try and view it without bias.

Because he hasn't won a playoff game in his 3 years?

Just being sure, because, you know, it hasn't been said enough times.

[Vinsane]

the nfl is full of elite atheletes, but only the best of tehbest will win, and only they can be called great. romo is not a great, he is an ok qb among a group of elite atheletes. would romo be a bad ass on a college team? Yes.

Same thing was said about Ben Awfulsburger until he won two rings. That, and he was a bad ass QB in college too.

However, he should only be credited with one.

Roethlisberger had one of the worst passing games of his career, completing just nine of 21 passes for 123 yards and two interceptions; his passer rating of 22.6 was the lowest in Super Bowl history by a winning quarterback.

[Archer]

The truth of the matter is that Tony Homo can't win the big ones. As someone stated earlier, he flops in big games. Funny part is, he literally was given the best talent in the NFL for the past couple of years, and he continues to choke. And don't bullcrap to me that the team "Wasn't there" against Philly. When you beat a team 44-6, you KNOW Philly wanted it more, coached better, and had a real QB. I've been afraid of Dallas for the past couple of seasons and you know what, I should never have been. Romo will choke anyway.

If they get a REAL QB that can actually win a game, then I'll be afraid. But why are they good now? You take away a future HOF receiver, the motivation of the team, don't make any good offseason additions and you still want to say you're even going to come close to winning the East? Yeah,right.

The fact is either New York or Philly will win that division and maybe even the Deadskins will finish third.

Hop off Homos balls and learn to cheer for a REAL team & QB.

McChoke has never choked in his career? I dont get it? Its even in his name . What was McNabb doing in the Arizona first half when he was throwing passes to his wrs feet? I bet it was all planned

At least the Boys dont have an asshole D cordinator who cost them a sb by getting cancer

Jim Johnson is so selfish

[steeljake]

Same thing was said about Ben Awfulsburger until he won two rings. That, and he was a bad ass QB in college too.

However, he should only be credited with one.

even if you dont say he earned the firstone, that still leaves him with 1 more than romo doesnt it?

[steeljake]

The truth of the matter is that Tony Homo can't win the big ones. As someone stated earlier, he flops in big games. Funny part is, he literally was given the best talent in the NFL for the past couple of years, and he continues to choke. And don't bullcrap to me that the team "Wasn't there" against Philly. When you beat a team 44-6, you KNOW Philly wanted it more, coached better, and had a real QB. I've been afraid of Dallas for the past couple of seasons and you know what, I should never have been. Romo will choke anyway.

If they get a REAL QB that can actually win a game, then I'll be afraid. But why are they good now? You take away a future HOF receiver, the motivation of the team, don't make any good offseason additions and you still want to say you're even going to come close to winning the East? Yeah,right.

The fact is either New York or Philly will win that division and maybe even the Deadskins will finish third.

Hop off Homos balls and learn to cheer for a REAL team & QB.

like your precious iggles who are the 1990's buffalo bills of the NFC? stfu bikaben, you lost any chance at being credible with that whole jim johnson and his cancer being the reason the eagles lost to the cards in the nfc championship game.

[TimsGiants]

Mcnabb dumps it to BW and LJ most of his passing yards seem to be extended hand offs to me

[Nukleopatra]

Tony Romo will be one of the top 5 candidates for MVP in 2009.

If I'm wrong, I'll leave VSN forever.

[bucky]

Tony Romo will be one of the top 5 candidates for MVP in 2009.

He's not young anymore, but he's only had 3 seasons of starting. I wouldn't be too surprised if he takes the next step. He could still jump up the QB ladder. I won't believe it until he stops faltering late in the season.

If I'm wrong, I'll leave VSN forever.

There you go giving me another reason to root against Dallas!!!

Are we talking regular season top 5 in stats?
What stats? QB Rating?
Top 5 in MVP voting? NFL or NFC?

If Dallas falters and doesn't make the playoffs, or loses in the first round, does that take Toni out of the Top 5 MVP candidate?

Just trying to set the ground rules so things are nice and clear.

[RyanLeaf16]

lol... your a dopey bitch arent you? i guess i should have know with a name like ryan leaf, and whats worse is you had a choice and still used it...

Relevance to the topic???

romo cant win a big game, thats fact,

I'm sorry...who is the "dopey bitch"? You are stating something as fact that can not even be stated as a fact. You can not measure what he can and can not do until his career is over. You are stating "romo cant win a big game," as fact. When in reality, the fact is he has not won a playoff game. That does not mean he can't. It just mean he has yet to do it.

the nfl is full of elite atheletes, but only the best of tehbest will win, and only they can be called great

See: Trent Dilfer. Football is the ultimate team sport.

romo is not a great, he is an ok qb among a group of elite atheletes.

I never said he was great. I never said he was elite. All I said was that it is tough to win in the NFL and that Romo is not overrated.

would romo be a bad ass on a college team? yes.

huh???

but in the nfl romo is just your average cignal caller who chokes when it counts the most.

So says the guy on the message board - a lot of prep and work goes into a game. Guys don't forget how to play. Like I said before, both teams - in a big game - are usually evenly matched and sometimes, they just have your number. As I also said before, Romo is not free from criticism. I just tend to think that Brandon Jacobs is off base in saying that he is overrated and not a good quarterback.

guys like eli and ben both have succeeded at the highest level so when people say they are better than romo, this is not opinion, it is fact.

Not sure where I said that Romo was better than either of these players...sooooo...not sure why you even made this point. In fact, most of your response to my post seemed to ignore anything relevant to what I stated as my opinion.

are you the real ryan leaf? you sure cry like he does.

I wasn't aware you knew Ryan...or that he cried. Even more amazing is that he cries just like me.


Basically all you have done in your post is show me how much of a fucking idiot you really are and why other VSN members think you are a dumb-fuck. I stopped getting into message board wars when MM was in its prime, but, I felt a responsibility to point out your poor logic and tired act. When you want to debate with the big boys be sure to come prepared douchebag.


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[TimsGiants]

[G-men]

Top 10 Quarterbacks

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Kurt Warner
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Philip Rivers
7. Jay Cutler
8. Eli Manning
9. Donovan McNabb
10. Carson Palmer

notice whos not on this list. hell he may not even be top 15, im sure i could find 5 more QBs i would rather have.

11. Matt Ryan
12. Chad Pennington
13. Brett Favre (Pending his return)
14. Matt Hasselbeck
15. Kerry Collins

okay so maybe the last few are pushing it a little but i still wouldnt mind having them on my team over romo. with any of these 15 quarterbacks, the cowboys are either the same or better.

[Rayman]

Top 10 Quarterbacks

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Kurt Warner
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Philip Rivers
7. Jay Cutler
8. Eli Manning
9. Donovan McNabb
10. Carson Palmer

notice whos not on this list. hell he may not even be top 15, im sure i could find 5 more QBs i would rather have.

11. Matt Ryan
12. Chad Pennington
13. Brett Favre (Pending his return)
14. Matt Hasselbeck
15. Kerry Collins

okay so maybe the last few are pushing it a little but i still wouldnt mind having them on my team over romo. with any of these 15 quarterbacks, the cowboys are either the same or better.

Like I said, I get it.

He's the worst starting QB in the NFL.