Pats trade for DE Derrick Burgess

[~Chance~]

Fuck them. I hate those fags. But it's good football.

[JayDizzle]

I can say that I admire the business sense that New England has when it comes to team building... this just furthers that.

This whole "rich get richer" thing only applies because all the sorry teams right now have shitty owners who can't their heads out of their asses to actually put together a solid team.

/rant

[MVP1991]

Says something about what the Pats currently had that they had to go out and get an average player who has never played OLB.

[Rylo]

Damn great pickup for the Pats.

Not looking forward to him facing Phins o-line

[MVP1991]

Damn great pickup for the Pats.

Not looking forward to him facing Phins o-line

Jake Long >>>> Every Pass rusher in AFCE

Vernon Carey>>>> Just about every pass rusher in the AFCE

If anything it makes them tougher for other opponents.

[Len B]

Says something about what the Pats currently had that they had to go out and get an average player who has never played OLB.

Jake Long >>>> Every Pass rusher in AFCE

Vernon Carey>>>> Just about every pass rusher in the AFCE

If anything it makes them tougher for other opponents.

Only a delirious Dolphins fan could spin this into the Pats sucking and the Dolphins owning.

[Rylo]

Not a Delirious Dolphins fan here.

Burgess is excellent.

BTW lol at Vernon Carey > Almost all pass rushers in AFC E. PUH LEASE.

[MVP1991]

Only a delirious Dolphins fan could spin this into the Pats sucking and the Dolphins owning.

I'm delirious for pointing out the fact that this trade says something about what the Pats had at linebacker before this trade, that Burgess has never played linebacker and Jake Long along with Vernon Carey can handle him?

Not a Delirious Dolphins fan here.

Burgess is excellent.

BTW lol at Vernon Carey > Almost all pass rushers in AFC E. PUH LEASE.

LMAO Burgess is not excellent. He was very good as a defensive end, he has NEVER played linebacker and will be poor against the run. And what AFCE pass rusher can get by Carey with regularity?

[Rylo]

I did not say he wasn't a beast ass tackle.

I just said your statement was retarded.

Carey has struggled in the past I know that.

[chubbz]

i have a feeling that he will be a better 3-4 pass rush specialist than a 4-3 guy. its just much easier. look at all these so-called amazing pass rushers. most of them are 3-4 olbs. if most of them played de they would get dominated by guys like ryan clady, jordan gross ect. lets see what greg ellis does to prove my point. o yea any MVP1991 was right. carey and long only gave up 3 sacks each. so they are better than the pass rushers in the afc east. btw the pats ony got two sacks on those two tackles last year. they better hope burgess can help that.

[Point Blank]

They should fun to watch this season, jesus.

[Fox1994]

oh give me a break. Just because they're the Patriots they aren't allowed to make a move or improve their team? If the Eagles got him for the same price you would have no problem with it. Take the whiney complaining act about New England elsewhere because it's pretty lame.


On another note, can Burgess play the stand up OLB spot in a 3-4 raider fans?

I guess we wouldn't f'ing know, would we? Seeing as how we run a 4-3...

A third rounder this year and a fifth-rounder next year? We lost Moss and Fabian for fourth rounders... ARGH! Our GM needs to be fired... And Al Davis needs to step away or be put in a coma.

[Scorask]

I only meant in the part where they acquire all the good players, not the part where they go and steal everyone like the Yanks did from FA.

I think the key word is "Acquire". 31 teams had a chance to "Acquire" Burgess, but the Pats were the ones to pull the trigger. It just shows that if the Pats see a way to improve their team, they do so. And with the pletheora of draft picks they accumulate year after year, its a no brainer. As Fleming said, the Pats/BB must feel Burgess will thrive in their system, which can be said about alot of players the Pats pick up that other teams think are washed up/noteffective/injury prone. They contribute based on their strengths, and not necessarily every down players, like on their previous teams, which makes them more effective.

[JayDizzle]

Belichick loves his raiders castoffs almost as much as parcells loves his former cowboys... 10+ sacks for Burgess hooked up to the patriot fountain of youth. not as scary as the thought of them signing Mike Vick was imo though.

There's still time... 6 weeks worth of game practice in the regular season plus whatever they can squeeze out of him when he can play to be exact.