Cowboys Roy Williams Breaks Collerbone

[steeljake]

I may come off as a homer but I really just defend my team. Sounds like that's exactly what Rayman does and he too gets labeled a homer. Yeah well, Dolphins are going to the Super Bowl!!!!

To stay on topic, this is a huge loss for the Cowboys. They looked good in preseason (from what I've watched) and looked like they had a legit shot at competing in the NFC. Looks like they're going to have to get Witten the ball.

i havent met a dolhins fan yet that was as bad a cowboys fan. when that team was losing and someone would say they suck, the fans would say, ya we know, maybe we will get better soon. when you say the cowboys suck, like aftre they dont even make the playoffs, their fans go ape shit and spew out all their past wins and how much gear they sell on nfl.com. i havent heard you once mention the perfect season.

[Esjay]

He's not great by any means(at least not yet). But he is a great second option.

He's just one of those guys you think will come up big because he's 6'5 260 TE and you know those guys are always targets.

No doubt he's a solid option for a #2 TE but I think it's safe to say you need more than Jason Witten and Martellus Bennett at this point in his career to be successful passing the football.

Oh well though like I said everyone has a little homer in them. Dallas fans just seem to have a little more.

[Tailback U]

Does someone mind translating this?


My real question is how do Cowboy fans feel about Bill Parcells raping them in the Fasano/Ayodele trade ? Unfuckingreal.

My real question is how great has Pat White looked this pre-season? The wildcat looks unstoppable man. You were right.

And oh my god have you seen Chad Henne?? You were right again, he is the next Dan Marino!!

[NAHSTE]

Yeah, nevermind the fact he's the best all-around player at his position in football. The sheer fact that he's Romo's security blanket means everyone else is ass.

Jay Novacek was Troy Aikman's go-to guy, too. I bet Michael Irvin was trash.

See what I mean? Cue the "homerism" violin.

Yeah, because you just got all upset when all I did was say the Cowboys WR corps is weak. So what if Jason Witten is what you call "the best all around player" at his position (and while I agree with you on this, I love how you had to throw all around in there since you know he's not a better receiver than Gates or Gonzalez, maybe even Clark too)?

And LOL at your Novacek comment. He was the go-to guy? Really? And are you seriously comparing Michael Irvin to Roy Williams, Patrick Crayton or Miles Austin?

This is why people call you a homer, because you can't have an objective conversation about the Cowboys. You are incapable.

If Roy is down for more than 4-6 weeks we are fucked. Every time I think of Crayton, I think of someone dropping a pass in the most critical situation of a game. And as for Austin and Hurd.. All potential, until they do it week in and week out on a regular basis. The Cowboys WR corps is shit without Roy. Face it..

Finally a Cowboys fan who is capable of being objective and realizes their WR are shitty, and doesn't bring in some irrelevant points like "So what our TE is awesome so fuck you haters"

[Rayman]

Yes, Novacek was the go-to guy. Irvin was the big play guy, but when Aikman was in a jam, he was looking for #84 first and foremost.

And the WR corps is not a world-beating group by any means, but they're far from scrubs. Crayton is not elite, but he is solid in the slot. Hurd's caught just about everything thrown his way in pre-season. I'm still waiting for Austin to put it all together.

I'm definitely not going to go crying if they have to start, and right now, it's a moot point, because Williams is fine.

"Objectionable" is funny when it comes to some of you. Bashing certain players non-stop is what you call "objectionable". Just like I said before, if I don't say Romo sucks, I'm a homer. If I don't say Roy Williams blows goats, I'm a homer. If I call DeMarcus Ware anything more than a decent pass-rusher, I'm a homer.

You all seem to have selective memory, too, because I've come down on the team in the past in instances where they deserved it. But since I spend most of my time here coming to their defense in useless circle-jerk threads like this one, I'll have to deal with your little labels.

Just like Roy Williams supposedly breaking his "collerbone" - no big deal.

Carry on.

[CrimsonGhost56]

i like Crayton. he helped the Giants get to the SB. he'll always be the man in my book.i hope hes on the cowboys forever and never retires.

[Rayman]

i like Crayton. he helped the Giants get to the SB. he'll always be the man in my book.i hope hes on the cowboys forever and never retires.

I hate you.

[JayDizzle]

Nice blatant usage of .gifs there...

As for staying on topic, I'm glad the guy's alright seeing as Williams needs to be Dallas' #1 receiver.

As stated before, Witten is the security blanket and if all Dallas' opponents need to think about is just double/triple-teaming him because the team WRs are unreliable... :bum:

Of course by then, the RB core will need to be knocked out for the season but hey, semantics right?

[Buzzman]

im npot reading all that shit. So did Williams break his collarbone or not?

[Rayman]

Why do fans cheer the injury of a rival player? Does the point of claiming to be the best become moot when you beat that team without their star players?

Week 17 rolls around and most teams that are already guarenteed a spot in the playoffs usually start their scrubs in order to prevent injury. While those star players are available, the odds of them playing are slimmer and increases the likelihood of winning for the opposing team. But doesn't that win equate to "pointless" because they did it when it didn't matter and when they faced scrubs?

Fans cheering on the injury of a rival player is the equivalent of a 4-11 team beating a 12-3 team without their primary starters during Week 17.

Anyways, just curious.

Dallas has potential to be a great team but I think we're beginning to let our past do the talking instead of the present. We were supposed to walk all over our opponents last season and instead, look what happened to us. Granted, there were circumstances out of our control (Romo being hurt for a while there being one of them), but still, it seemed as if the team entered the 2008 Season believing they were entitled and it came back to bite them on the ass.

I admit that sometimes I leave my sapphire-colored sunglasses on too long but I'm always striving to keep it real with my thoughts. Thankfully I have friends in the real world that keep me grounded.

Roy Williams is our biggest threat through the air though we don't know how much of a threat he will be until the season starts. He and Romo have had time to work together so hopefully it pans out this time around. Last season Roy had 10 weeks with the Cowboys to learn but missed out on a lot of early playing time with Romo and when he did return, we were still trying to force the ball too much into Owens' hands and Garrett appeared to be lost with his playcalling.

Jason Witten is the best all-around TE in the league but that only means he's realiable on most nights. You can count on him to block ... but he's not the best blocker. You can count on him to catch a crucial pass ... but he's not the best receiver. You can count on him to give 100% every night and then dig deep down and give an extra 20% even when he's got nothing left in the tank. In my mind, he's the epitome of what a Dallas Cowboys football player is supposed to be.

Marion Barber is the other epitome. He's not the everydown back we think we need but he's more than willing to lower his shoulder and drop a defender or two on his way to gain that extra yard or two because he understands the value of field position.

Felix Jones is Felix Jones. I know he's fast as fuck ... if you fuck fast then you know what I mean. He did suffer that injury early in the season just when it seemed like everytime he touched the ball he was a threat to score ... from the backfield. Didn't notice if he's a threat receiving the ball but I did take notice to his ability to burn a defense when lined up 5 to 7 yards behind the LOS ... as long as the offensive line opens the running lanes.

Tashard Choice is a fine specimen. He's a lil' bit of Barber and a lil' bit of Jones. The perfect compliment to the Barber/Jones duo. He's good enough ... as long as he stays healthy too, to be a starter for some team in this league ... maybe in a year or two.

Patrick Crayton ... for being a 7th Round pick and a former college QB, is undervalued. Marques Colston, another former 7th Rounder, is far greater than Crayton. But then again, Colston didn't have to learn his new position. Isiah Stanback was a former college quarterback out of the University of Washington and was made into a wide receiver ... and was drafted in the 4th Round. Patrick Crayton has some of the best and most reliable hands on this team ... but the only plays that stand out are the ones where he looked every bit as unreliable as Jeremy Shockey does when he goes out for the pass. Still, he's probably peaked as a receiver but considering he was a former college QB-turned-WR drafted in the 7th Round with very little possibility of keeping with the team, he's turned out to be quite a better player than most people gave ... or even give him.

Miles Austin is all potential. Still haven't seen enough of him to make an educated assessment. He's got the speed and athleticism but we haven't seen consistency from him and he's still very raw.

Sam Hurd has been good enough but he's just not worth really assessing right now. He's a decent receiver that has some speed but not a lot.

Tony Romo is bound to lead the Cowboys to at least one playoff victory. Hell, the dude wasn't even drafted and he's the leader of the Cowboys semi-potent offense. He's the face of this franchise right now and he's maturing each season. The offense fell flat last season compared to what we expected from them but hell, they'd have been in better position in the playoffs (still wouldn't have guarenteed a win) had the defense taken care of business against the Ravens when McGahee and McLain ripped off consecutive 70+ yard touchdown runs on the first play of each of their series late in the game ... and then turned around and let the Eagles stomp all over their asses. Last season was an utter disappointment and a rude awakening for a team that felt they were entitled.

You stop making sense right this instant.

[Senser81]

People are confident in Dallas' RBs, but I just don't see it. Barber floundered in his feature-back role. Felix Jones is a small back who spent most of last year injured. Tashard Choice is a nice RB but largely unproven.

I think Barber needs to adjust his running style. He fumbles way too much because of the extra pounding he takes trying to gain that extra yard. Ahman Green used to do this with Green Bay, and it drove me crazy. Just fall down and protect the football.

I think the Cowboys will really need to figure out how to utilize all 3 guys at the same time, because I don't think any of them are #1 RBs.

[Rayman]

People are confident in Dallas' RBs, but I just don't see it. Barber floundered in his feature-back role. Felix Jones is a small back who spent most of last year injured. Tashard Choice is a nice RB but largely unproven.

I think Barber needs to adjust his running style. He fumbles way too much because of the extra pounding he takes trying to gain that extra yard. Ahman Green used to do this with Green Bay, and it drove me crazy. Just fall down and protect the football.

I think the Cowboys will really need to figure out how to utilize all 3 guys at the same time, because I don't think any of them are #1 RBs.

I think that's the idea, though.

The smart thing to do is to balance Jones and Choice during the bulk of the game, and return Barber to the "closer" role in which he thrived prior to last year. Great thing about the 3 of them is that they can all catch the ball.

BTW Jones is 6'0" 220 now. Not saying he's a true all-purpose guy yet, but putting that extra bulk on while maintaining his speed is a good sign.