This is how with Sunshine in charge...

[RyanLeaf16]

No link...just got word.

Bucs Offensive Coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski fired and quarterbacks coach Greg Olson will take over.

Told you shit was fucked up with Sunshine. Jags didn't like the pick of Leftwich so they fired him. He was pissed because he had no say...he should have though.

Great...fuck this organization...Sunshine is fucking shit up over there.

[ralaw]

LOL, isn't Jeff Jagodzinski the guy who was fired as coach of BC for interviewing with the Jets?

OT

Leaf, do you know if Rodney Landers (Qb project, athlete) is still with the Bucs or has he been cut? I ask because he's a local kid from my highschool who I was following at James Madison U, but I've since lost touch with his happenings.

[RyanLeaf16]

LOL, isn't Jeff Jagodzinski the guy who was fired as coach of BC for interviewing with the Jets?

OT

Leaf, do you know if Rodney Landers (Qb project, athlete) is still with the Bucs or has he been cut? I ask because he's a local kid from my highschool who I was following at James Madison U, but I've since lost touch with his happenings.

No. He made it through some mini-camps and OTAs. Coaches liked his prospects as a corner. Never made it to camp though. Was released to make room on the roster for other guys coming to camp.

[Maynard]

some of this sounds like you speaking in codes.....what/who is sunshine?

[RyanLeaf16]

Seriously though. This shit is a fuckin' joke. Raheem was trying to make the decision for Jagodzinski and was not giving him any input. Raheem wanted his guy and that was that.

Now, we have Greg Olson as the offensive coordinator. He will have to use Jags' scheme and teach the ZBS to the offensive line with Mangurian. All the work done in mini-camps, OTAs, training camp, etc. is wasted and gone.

This is a shame...a lot of good players on that team and they were going to struggle with all the changes, and now, they will struggle even more. Forget 3 or 4 wins. Try 1 win.

[RyanLeaf16]

some of this sounds like you speaking in codes.....what/who is sunshine?

Sorry...lol...Sunshine = Raheem Morris

[Goober]

some of this sounds like you speaking in codes.....what/who is sunshine?

The head coach, Raheem morris.

[Goober]

BTW, isn't Morris a defensive guy? WTF is he doing?

That's the one thing McDaniels has done right, he gave Mike Nolan full control of the defense.

[RyanLeaf16]

BTW, isn't Morris a defensive guy? WTF is he doing?

That's the one thing McDaniels has done right, he gave Mike Nolan full control of the defense.

Yep he was the ASSISTANT defensive backs coach here in Tampa when Mike Tomlin was the defensive backs coach. He got the defensive coordinator position with Kansas State and spent a year there before returning to the Bucs as the defensive backs coach. Then he was promoted to defensive coordinator in december and then promoted to head coach two months later to head coach. Somehow his extensive resume and proven track record warranted his hiring. He's shown a fantastic decision-making ability too

I really am at the point where I just want to say fuck it...

[Maynard]

Sorry...lol...Sunshine = Raheem Morris

so now i get to break your balls for a minute.....didnt you post about a year ago that you wanted gruden to be gone? are you guys missing him now......still dont understand that move at all

dungy made the bucs respectable.....gruden made them a winner. I wish he coached the browns

[Goober]

so now i get to break your balls for a minute.....didnt you post about a year ago that you wanted gruden to be gone? are you guys missing him now......still dont understand that move at all

dungy made the bucs respectable.....gruden made them a winner. I wish he coached the browns

nahh, I'm pretty sure leaf was pro Gruden.

[RyanLeaf16]

so now i get to break your balls for a minute.....didnt you post about a year ago that you wanted gruden to be gone? are you guys missing him now......still dont understand that move at all

dungy made the bucs respectable.....gruden made them a winner. I wish he coached the browns

I never wanted Gruden gone. If anything, people bust my balls about being too vocal about my support for Gruden. Maybe it was Sappisgod or another Bucs fan. There weren't many at MM or here at VSN.

[The Messenger]

so now i get to break your balls for a minute.....didnt you post about a year ago that you wanted gruden to be gone? are you guys missing him now......still dont understand that move at all

dungy made the bucs respectable.....gruden made them a winner. I wish he coached the browns

Ain't that Gruden in his sig?:captain:

[RyanLeaf16]

This is a team with its compass needle spinning right now. There is absolutely no direction. Olson wasn't anything special in St. Louis as offensive coordinator. He took a lot of talent and blew it out his ass before he was stripped by Sean Linehan of his play-calling duties.

Now, he is going to help rebuild a team and an offense??? I know Mike Tomlin and Raheem is no Mike Tomlin!

Just because he is young and black means he's the "next Mike Tomlin" which is what a lot of people down here say, what some pundits say, etc.

[Maynard]

nope...i remember it very clearly. It was at MM. It sounded more like a frustration post then anything. But you talked about how the bucs were not going anywhere with gruden.....not that it matters now

but this move makes no sense. Its up on ESPN now but no word on any reasoning behind the move.

do you ever get the feeling that teams will hire a coach to purposly make themselves bad. Not bad like i want to purposly lose every game, but bad enough to earn high draft picks and rebuild. Or maybe its like that show the producers where they can earn more by making a bust movie

some teams coaching choices make no sense to me at all