Week 1: Dallas @ Tampa Bay

[kmanharris]

I disagree in that the Miles TD wasn't anything even remotely close to a TB mistake. Romo put that ball in the absolute perfect spot and then he did the rest.

I'm just laughing at the fact that our offense was supposed to suck ass without TO and Romo just put up the most yards he's ever put up in his career and never turned the ball over.

If they fix their issues on run defense, they're gonna blow the doors off the Giants next week.

I never said the Miles TD was a mistake by TB. I said that good teams take advantage of mistakes by the other teams, which we did (crayton/williams td)

[RyanLeaf16]

It's the same thing that's been the problem for all recent years. Not having a true #1 QB is our main offensive setback and giving up the big plays on defense. Just because Leftwich is a little better than Garcia, and our RBs are better, and our D is a little faster doesn't mean our problems are fixed. We have the same problems we've always had, and now have another. Our lock kicker that we could always count on was sent to the curb, and now we have a kicker that sucks ass.

I can appriciate that you stuck by Gruden all those years, and you're trying to stick behind these guys. But we need some real shaking in the Bucs organization.

Huh?

I think you need to reread my post. All I was saying was that the offense looked like it was going back to the days of Shula and Christensen. Not sure what that has to do with Gruden since both Shula and Christensen worked for Dungy and were both fired. All I was pointing out was that the run game was effective. Never said I was "sticking behind these guys." If anything Gruden should have never been fired and if he was to be replaced, he should not have been replaced by Sunshine Morris.

[RyanLeaf16]

Wow! You answered your own question in your post. You really need to start thinking logically when reading posts and not just how this post relates to that post.

No, you don't understand. My point about not understanding what it had to do with Gruden was in reference to your comment about my take on Mike Shula and Clyde Christensen. You were the one who linked Shula/Christensen to Gruden. All I said was that I did not understand why you were comparing Gruden to them.

Did you just start rooting for the Bucs in '02 or something? Not aware of the coaches prior to Gruden so you just assumed Shula/Christensen worked for him. You were the one who compared two totally different offensive philosophies together when complaining about the "same old problems."

[ZMnsr1]

Jeff Garcia is miles ahead of Byron Leftwich.

that's a joke. Garcia is better for some situations but his lack of an arm and lack of wanting to stay in the pocket was horrible. in those two ways Leftwich is much better but accuracy wise on short passes Garcia is better. i like Leftwich over Garcia.

[Senser81]

After watching this game, all I could think was "Same old Bucs! Why did they ever fire Gruden?"