Has Matt Ryan Been "Crowned" Too Early?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • godspeed
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1316

    #16
    Originally posted by BazookaJoe5
    Your ass must still be sore from the raping Flacco and Co. gave the Dolphins twice last year.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don;t remember Flacco completing more then 10 passes in that playoff game.

    Comment

    • Esjay
      Luck2Hilton
      • Feb 2009
      • 2328

      #17
      Ryan is very good but let's not act like Flacco isn't at least close to him. Flacco did take his team to the AFC Title game. I don't want to hear any Atlanta fans saying 'well if Ryan had that defense' either. Fact is he doesnt and the NFC was a lot easier to get through than the AFC last season.

      Comment

      • Deviant
        Yes, please.
        • Nov 2008
        • 2861

        #18
        Originally posted by QUAN aka GOAT
        Okay first off Matt Ryan is a better QB than Joe Flacco. Also look at the defense Ryan had last year and look at the defense Flacco had? Also U cant go off today cause look at the teams they played. Flacco played the Chiefs while Matt Ryan played the Dolphins a playoff team from last year. So u gotta come with a better argument than that
        I'm not purely going off of today's game. I honestly don't think the Dolphins defense is that much better than the Chiefs. If anything, that game told me that the Falcons' defense is really good. However, Flacco just looks better, in my opinion. He's big, physical, moves around, and is accurate. The Ravens have never been known as a passing offense. Passing offense has never been a strong point of Baltimore, yet Flacco has revitalized it. Flacco could possibly throw for 3,500+ this year and I can't even think of a Ravens QB who has come close to that.

        But honestly, what has Matt Ryan done that Joe Flacco hasn't? They both had very impressive regular seasons and not-so-impressive post-seasons (other than the fact that Flacco won two and Ryan none). Both took over teams that need revamped offenses and delivered. So, why Ryan over Flacco?


        Back at it, yet again. Sign up here!

        Comment

        • MVP1991
          The Man
          • Feb 2009
          • 2342

          #19
          Originally posted by BazookaJoe5
          You say you are a "believer" after what Ryan did today but Flacco's 300 yard, 3 TD performance didn't make you a believer in what he can do too?

          Your ass must still be sore from the raping Flacco and Co. gave the Dolphins twice last year.

          I don't play the Flacco vs. Ryan stuff because they are both good. I lol @ the people who act like Flacco is some scrub though. He did do something Ryan didn't last year, you know, win in the playoffs.
          LOL Flacco played a very little part in beating Miami both times.

          The Golden Turducken
          Season 1: 11-5 (Super Bowl Champion)
          Season 2: 12-4 (NFC West Champion)

          Season 3: 9-4

          Comment

          • ram29jackson
            Noob
            • Nov 2008
            • 0

            #20
            they are both good- I wont care about who might be better til' 2 or 3 years down the line-

            Comment

            • NAHSTE
              Probably owns the site
              • Feb 2009
              • 22233

              #21
              lol wut

              Matt Ryan is a great young QB and has star written all over him. That's all that has ever been said. He's not the best QB in the league or even the best young QB at this point. Just a very good QB who has the drive and makeup to eventually become a great QB.
              Last edited by NAHSTE; 09-13-2009, 09:19 PM.

              Comment

              • godspeed
                Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 1316

                #22
                Originally posted by houtz
                Flacco had nothing to do with them "raping" us in the playoffs last season. That was 100% the Ravens defense.
                Yeah I mentioned in a previous post, I don't remember him having more then 10 completions in that game.

                I just looked it up.

                Flacco was 9 for 23 in that game.

                Not sure what that poster was talking about.

                Comment

                • Woy
                  RIP West
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 16372

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Deviant
                  College. I think I've had more drunk hours than sober hours my first two weeks back.
                  Okay, just wondering. I missed you.



                  ^ Shouts to MvP for the sick sig. GFX TEAM BACK

                  .

                  Comment

                  • JTRaines92
                    Boss
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 2342

                    #24
                    I think Flacco is a better QB than Ryan and I was definitely more impressed with him last year than I was with Ryan.
                    This is really the most stupid thing I have read in a while. I know we all have our opinions but this is just ridicules. Matt Ryan threw for 3500+ yards on a crappy team projected to finish last in the league while Joe Flacco did not throw for 3000 yards on a Super Bowl contending team. Although Joe Flacco looked far better than Matt Ryan today in my opinion I still think Matt Ryan is the next superstar QB in the league!

                    Comment

                    • Fox1994
                      Posts too much
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 5327

                      #25
                      ^3500 yards... and yet only 16 TDs. Am I the only person who thinks that's weird?

                      Comment

                      • j.hen
                        Self Care
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 10058

                        #26
                        Joe Flacco did jack shit for his team in the play offs, he managed to not completely get exposed and blow it the first playoff games and then finally showed just how much that Defense carried the team last season.

                        Today you gotta give him props for how he performed, of course it is against the Chiefs... but still.

                        Comment

                        • Deviant
                          Yes, please.
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2861

                          #27
                          Originally posted by JTRaines92
                          This is really the most stupid thing I have read in a while. I know we all have our opinions but this is just ridicules. Matt Ryan threw for 3500+ yards on a crappy team projected to finish last in the league while Joe Flacco did not throw for 3000 yards on a Super Bowl contending team. Although Joe Flacco looked far better than Matt Ryan today in my opinion I still think Matt Ryan is the next superstar QB in the league!
                          How is what I said the stupidest thing you've ever read in a while? What you just said may be borderline retarded.

                          Joe Flacco didn't throw for 3,000... oh, God forbid he fall only less than 30 yards short of fucking 3,000. And Matt Ryan did not throw for 3,500+. Get that "+" the fuck out of here. He threw for 3,440. You tried to pull an inflate/deflate move and failed.

                          And the Ravens were Super Bowl contenders last year? Really? After going 5-11 in one of their worst years in their existence, surrendering a win to the 1-15 Dolphins, and firing Brian Billick? They were Super Bowl contenders?


                          Back at it, yet again. Sign up here!

                          Comment

                          • NAHSTE
                            Probably owns the site
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 22233

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Lahey
                            I like both of these guys futures in the NFL. Neither are top 10 yet, but they both look very promising.
                            With apologies to Senser, this. Not sure why it has to be one or the other. Both look like they will have good careers and win a lot of games. I think Ryan is a bit more of a Tom Brady cerebral type whereas Flacco has the great arm and a lot of moxie. Two different QBs but both very good at what they do and they could very well end up the two great QBs of their generation.

                            Comment

                            • Deviant
                              Yes, please.
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2861

                              #29
                              Originally posted by NAHSTE13
                              With apologies to Senser, this. Not sure why it has to be one or the other. Both look like they will have good careers and win a lot of games. I think Ryan is a bit more of a Tom Brady cerebral type whereas Flacco has the great arm and a lot of moxie. Two different QBs but both very good at what they do and they could very well end up the two great QBs of their generation.
                              Well, it wasn't necessarily a "who's better" thing I was posing, but just more why is it that Ryan has gotten so much praise and Flacco not nearly as much. It really doesn't have to be one or the other.


                              Back at it, yet again. Sign up here!

                              Comment

                              • Senser81
                                VSN Poster of the Year
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 12804

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Deviant
                                How is what I said the stupidest thing you've ever read in a while? What you just said may be borderline retarded.

                                Joe Flacco didn't throw for 3,000... oh, God forbid he fall only less than 30 yards short of fucking 3,000. And Matt Ryan did not throw for 3,500+. Get that "+" the fuck out of here. He threw for 3,440. You tried to pull an inflate/deflate move and failed.

                                And the Ravens were Super Bowl contenders last year? Really? After going 5-11 in one of their worst years in their existence, surrendering a win to the 1-15 Dolphins, and firing Brian Billick? They were Super Bowl contenders?
                                While I enjoy an inflate/deflate move as much as the next guy, I have to admit that was one of the weaker moves.

                                My take is that Matt Ryan was seen as an integral part of Atlanta's turnaround, whereas Flacco was more of 'on the periphery' of Baltimore's success. If this is correct or not, I don't really know, but I think that is the difference in perception of the two QBs. I think Flacco is a lot like Roethlisberger in that he can make plays at key times, even if he isn't the best statistical QB.

                                Comment

                                Working...