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  • Nukleopatra
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    • Nov 2008
    • 4365

    #76
    Originally posted by archer2k407
    Yeah .... them SD teams really sucked bad .
    Peyton Manning actually took over the 29th ranked defense and lead them to a 13-3 record the following season. He didn't exactly take over a fantastic football team. He just makes them a better football team.

    Didn't he win the superbowl with the 21st ranked defense?

    Again, I might be off on those numbers, but they weren't exactly the Baltimore Ravens.

    Ooops, I did it again! I'm done with this, seriously.

    Edit: I was wrong about his first playoff win.
    Last edited by Nukleopatra; 09-18-2009, 07:02 PM.

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    • Archer
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      • Oct 2008
      • 15303

      #77
      Originally posted by NYSportsRule
      It's page 5...

      And I wasn't the one starting it, maybe if someone would actually give a reason instead of just quote and say:

      "L
      M
      A
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      and call it a reason. That's one thing I can't stand, is when people act like they know everything without any backup of what they say.
      I think you mean "Jorshs" list and if you do I will attempt to say why I think it's a bad list

      Brees is at one , clearly because of stats reasons only . There can be no other reason to have Brees at one

      Peyton Manning , the three time and reigning MVP at three . Who also has better stats than Brees over his career (he didn't last season but yet still won MVP) . Warner at 10 , this once again , makes no sense following the "stats matter" theory he had to have been going with when he put Brees at one . If Brees is at one for stats then Warner must be a top 5 quarterback right? two time mvp .... in the MVP talks last season , led a shitty franchise to the sb . Has been in MVP contention every year he started more than 12 games .

      I could also argue a few more but I thought I would leave that there

      I just thinking putting Brees at 1 for "stats reasons" makes his list seem very bad as he doesn't follow the pattern all the way down.

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      • Miggy
        The Situation
        • Nov 2008
        • 2874

        #78
        a black QB in the top 10 list?

        [10-08, 21:30] JayDizzle An alligator will kill you the fuck dead

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        • Archer
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          • Oct 2008
          • 15303

          #79
          Originally posted by NYSportsRule
          No, they weren't a fantastic football team, but they still had a lot more talent than Brees has ever had to work with with the Saints. Brees was not that bad with the Chargers either. It was a bad fit for him there, him wanting to throw deep a lot and the Chargers wanting to play smash-mouth football, but he still took them to pretty good records every year with a less talented team than the Patriots and the Colts had. Remember this Chargers O-Line was awful when Brees played for them. He had absolutely no receivers, and the defense wasn't half as good as it was after they got Merriman, Weddel, etc.

          And didn't the defense force a fumble on Jarome Bettis on the goalline in order to win that game in the playoffs? And weren't they also the #1 ranked defense statistically in the NFL in that playoffs?

          I'm not saying Brees should be #1, I have Manning at #1, but it's not so ridiculous to have him that high. I'd have him #2 right now.


          No, I meant Jorth...

          And thank you for actually backing up with reason
          Send my apology to him for the spelling mistake

          Brees went 30-28 in SD (If I am not mistaken).... with a top rusher and a top 10 defense in some years . Hardly stand out numbers

          People also forget how little talent the Colts had when Manning first took over
          Last edited by Archer; 09-18-2009, 07:14 PM.

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          • Wildcard
            ®3+@®d5 = 6®0@n5
            • Oct 2008
            • 5065

            #80
            Originally posted by archer2k407
            Send my apology to him for the spelling mistake

            Brees went 30-28 in SD (If I am not mistaken).... with a top rusher and a top 10 defense in some years . Hardly stand out numbers

            Ceople also forget how little talent the Colts had when Manning first took over
            Colts D was pathetic, but I wouldn't call Edge and Harrison little talent. One of the best trios of all time.
            Originally posted by Leftwich 2-14-2009
            I wasn't comparing myself to Wildcard. I honestly don't think I could compare myself to God.

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            • Nukleopatra
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              • Nov 2008
              • 4365

              #81
              Originally posted by NYSportsRule
              No, they weren't a fantastic football team, but they still had a lot more talent than Brees has ever had to work with with the Saints. Brees was not that bad with the Chargers either. It was a bad fit for him there, him wanting to throw deep a lot and the Chargers wanting to play smash-mouth football, but he still took them to pretty good records every year:
              The guy had a 30-28 record with the Chargers, who had a top 10 running attack in two of those seasons. One of the seasons they had the 11th ranked defense. He ended up getting swept by Jake ''The Snake '' Plummer and Chad Pennington twice in one of those seasons. That's not exactly a great record. San Diego hasn't missed the playoffs since getting rid of him, by the way. Philip Rivers even once lead them to a playoff victory, while having the 25th ranked defense in yards allowed.

              ''But the kicker missed.''

              Maybe so.. but Drew Brees threw 3 interceptions in those two losses to New York, while Chad Pennington played flawless football. And I can't even begin to explain how the fuck you manage to get swept by ''The Snake.'' Philip Rivers can win with a bad defense, Peyton Manning can win with a bad defense, Kurt Warner got to the superbowl with the 19th ranked defense... What exactly does Drew Brees need? The Baltimore Ravens defense, in which Trent Dilfer had, but gets mocked and laughed at for being carried?

              So, if we stick Brees in a defense like that, and he wins a superbowl, do we mock him, too? I mean, we almost have to, because he can't win jack OR shit with anything less, right?

              Dude, did I just post again? Rush, ban me for 24 hours, seriously.
              Last edited by Nukleopatra; 09-18-2009, 07:22 PM.

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              • Goober
                Needs a hobby
                • Feb 2009
                • 12271

                #82
                Jake Plummer had a 39-15 record with the Denver Broncos, and had two playoff wins. It's safe to say he was a better QB then Drew Brees.

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                • Nukleopatra
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                  • Nov 2008
                  • 4365

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Goblinslayer
                  Jake Plummer had a 39-15 record with the Denver Broncos, and had two playoff wins. It's safe to say he was a better QB then Drew Brees.
                  lol.

                  I realize a lot of people mock Jake, me being one of them.. But Jake Plummer not only swept Drew Brees that year, but he won a fucking playoff game, having a WORSE defense.

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                  • Goober
                    Needs a hobby
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 12271

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Nukleopatra
                    lol.

                    I realize a lot of people mock Jake, me being one of them.. But Jake Plummer not only swept Drew Brees that year, but he won a fucking playoff game, having a WORSE defense.
                    And he married a cheerleader.

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                    • Wildcard
                      ®3+@®d5 = 6®0@n5
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5065

                      #85
                      There is no justification towards having Rodgers better than Romo.

                      They have both done nothing in the playoffs, and Romo is a better QB stats wise, and on the field.
                      Originally posted by Leftwich 2-14-2009
                      I wasn't comparing myself to Wildcard. I honestly don't think I could compare myself to God.

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                      • Nukleopatra
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                        • Nov 2008
                        • 4365

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Wildcard
                        There is no justification towards having Rodgers better than Romo.

                        They have both done nothing in the playoffs, and Romo is a better QB stats wise, and on the field.
                        Dude, you have Drew Brees ahead of Warner and McNabb.

                        You want their postseason records?

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                        • Wildcard
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                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5065

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Nukleopatra
                          Dude, you have Drew Brees ahead of Warner and McNabb.

                          You want their postseason records?
                          I know. I know. I'm talking about a straight up comparison between 2 QBs. Romo, and Rodgers.

                          My reason for Brees being better than Warner? If I was the GM of the Saints, and had to choose between Old ass Warner, Black ass McNabb or Choke ass Drew Brees. I would take Brees.
                          Originally posted by Leftwich 2-14-2009
                          I wasn't comparing myself to Wildcard. I honestly don't think I could compare myself to God.

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                          • Nukleopatra
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                            • Nov 2008
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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Wildcard
                            I know. I know. I'm talking about a straight up comparison between 2 QBs. Romo, and Rodgers.

                            My reason for Brees being better than Warner? If I was the GM of the Saints, and had to choose between Old ass Warner, Black ass McNabb or Choke ass Drew Brees. I would take Brees.
                            The nicknames alone, deserve a ''thanks.''

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                            • Archer
                              Go the fuck outside
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 15303

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Xixak
                              Decent ranking.

                              Only 2 problems:

                              1.) Top 3 should've been Brady, then Brees, then Manning.
                              2.) Romo shouldn't be ranked ahead of Big Ben
                              Please? Don't insult a first ballot hof .... three time MVP .... argubly top 5 qb of all time like that ever again
                              Last edited by Archer; 09-18-2009, 07:49 PM.

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                              • Wildcard
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                                • Oct 2008
                                • 5065

                                #90
                                Originally posted by archer2k407
                                Please? Don't insult a first ballot hof .... three time MVP .... argubly top 10 qb of all time like that ever again
                                Please? Don't insult a first ballot hof .... three time SB Champ .... arguably top 5 qb of all time like that ever again



                                jk <3 Manning>Brady
                                Last edited by Wildcard; 09-18-2009, 07:55 PM.
                                Originally posted by Leftwich 2-14-2009
                                I wasn't comparing myself to Wildcard. I honestly don't think I could compare myself to God.

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