another 0-16?

[Warner2BruceTD]

The Buccs have played much better than the Rams & Browns.

The Rams have 7 points, and didn't record their first sack for 7.5 quarters. They have more penalties than points.

[strahanfan92]

Rams barely lost yesterday.. and they got a great coach

[Kuzzy Powers]

Aslong as they win 6 or less games im satisfied. I got a huge play on the Bucs win total U 6.5 games this year.

[ZMnsr1]

so what position do you guys think Bucs should draft with their possible top 3 pick?

[Warner2BruceTD]

Rams barely lost yesterday.. and they got a great coach

"Great coach" remains to be seen.

Rams have ONE sack in two games, and never even touch the QB. I guess it's not so easy for Spags when you don't have Strahan, Tuck, Osi, Kiwanuka, etc. That front four would get pressure on their own, without having to blitz, making his life alot easier.

That, and all his talk of a power running game has resulted in S. Jackson having a whopping 33 carries in two games, and only two healthy HB's on the roster.

And the Rams are still the same undisciplined, sloppy bunch they were under Lamehan, even though Spags purged 40% of the roster.

You can have him back.

[jeffx]

"Great coach" remains to be seen.

Rams have ONE sack in two games, and never even touch the QB. I guess it's not so easy for Spags when you don't have Strahan, Tuck, Osi, Kiwanuka, etc. That front four would get pressure on their own, without having to blitz, making his life alot easier.

That, and all his talk of a power running game has resulted in S. Jackson having a whopping 33 carries in two games, and only two healthy HB's on the roster.

And the Rams are still the same undisciplined, sloppy bunch they were under Lamehan, even though Spags purged 40% of the roster.

You can have him back.

Rome wasn't built in a day. Like you said, Spags doesn't have the horses(yet).

[Nukleopatra]

I would say the Rams have a shot.

Yeah. But they have a ''great coach,'' Glen.

Probably the finest 0-2 head coach in NFL history.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Rome wasn't built in a day. Like you said, Spags doesn't have the horses(yet).

I hated the hire, and I still hate it.

Jon Gruden was avaiable, and they didnt even interview him.

[Nukleopatra]

I expected their defense to be wayyyyyy more aggressive than they have been. I didn't expect to be blown away, but I thought Spagnolo was from the Jim Johnson school of pressure?

It is a bit early in the season to tell.

Calling the guy a ''great coach'' is a bit stupid, though.

Like most things the Rams organization does, I didn't like the hire either, at all.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I expected their defense to be wayyyyyy more aggressive than they have been. I didn't expect to be blown away, but I thought Spagnolo was from the Jim Johnson school of pressure?

Again, he had the best collection of defensive line talent the league has seen in years in NY.

Another thing I don't get, is when these coordinators get HC jobs, then hire coordinators to run the side of the ball they came from. Spags was hired because he was supposedly this great defensive mind, and he goes out and hires some bum from Carolina to run his defense.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I'm just saying, Mike Nolan has totally changed the QB pressure situation in Denver with basically guys he could grab off the scrap heap (Ronald Fields, Andre Goodman, Mario Haggan, Ryan McBean, Darrell Reid). The only big name we brought in was Brian Dawkins. I didn't say the defense had to be better, but you can create pressure through your scheme, not necessarily the talent that you have assembled.

That's my point.

I don't think Spags is any kind of defensive mastermind, i just think he benefitted from outstanding defensive line talent.

[Liquidrob]

Lions are 0-18 now, doesnt seem to hard, you just gotta believe

[Herm]

Yeah...not sure if you were trying to bring the lulz or not. But, if you were serious...you pretty much know nothing about the Bucs or have seen them this season.

The only difference between me and ZMNSR is that I called this back in February, people said I was just sour that Gruden was fired, that I needed to give Raheem a chance, to stop hating on the Freeman pick, etc. And look at the first 2 games. I said this was going to happen. It is not sour grapes...its being a realist. I'm not drinking the kool-aid.

There's a difference between a transition period in learning a new scheme and flat-out piss poor play and a poor selection of your on-field personnel.

after the 09 draft most of the mock draft sites i saw for the 10 draft had Tampa for Number 1 pick i dont think you're alone.

[ChemTheThriller]

Lions are 0-18 now, doesnt seem to hard, you just gotta believe

0-19 they lost the last game of the 07 season also...

[RyanLeaf16]

after the 09 draft most of the mock draft sites i saw for the 10 draft had Tampa for Number 1 pick i dont think you're alone.

I meant from the Bucs fans on VSN.