Hey ram29jackson...

[riley420]

just because you get what you consider is a positive result,does not mean its a positive in and of itself.

Philosophy does not apply to football.

The Jets are first in the AFC East after 3 weeks at 3-0. Regardless of your mythical "parity", the numbers remain the same.

Jets 3-0

That is all that matters in this discussion. There is a reason all games are played on the field and not in your mind.

[ram29jackson]

dammit man just go away again. no one gives a fuck about a mediocre (yes, a top 30 wide out is mediocre) semi known wide out. stop being a pompuos ass. sanchez is good, and he has a great o-line and a good - great defense and a running game. Big Ben hand the same thing and the team was 15-1 and lost to the Pats in the afc title game in his rookie year.

here woy, it is a dude named harold jackson

top 30 lifetime is not mediocre you uneducated moron. there was a point where he was top 20 to 30 in receiver categories in the entire history of football up to that time. That is not mediocre. Are you really that dumb dude ?

he was not semi known, he was well known in his time period. Just like the guys you consider well known in your recent time period. Are you so inept you cant understand that? Just because you didnt know something doesnt mean it wasnt well known.

Sorry, but that many young QBs cant be good that early unless the quality of play in the league has been dumbed down. To not understand that means you dont have a well rounded and in depth view of how things function haha

[ram29jackson]

Philosophy does not apply to football.

The Jets are first in the AFC East after 3 weeks at 3-0. Regardless of your mythical "parity", the numbers remain the same.

Jets 3-0

That is all that matters in this discussion. There is a reason all games are played on the field and not in your mind.

this has nothing to do with philosophy. it is deductive reasoning. Parity and free agency means league wide mediocrity. Players are starting too young before learning systems and players move around so most teams dont have cohesive units.

the jets are first in a weak league

[riley420]

Or, the quality of the quarterbacks has increased.

Sanchez >>> Ryan Leaf

Flacco >>> Dave Klingler

Roethlisberger >>> Heath Shuler

QB play coming out of college into the NFL was, for the most part, horrible. There were far more 1st round/2nd round QB busts than there are now...this is because many colleges are running pro style offenses that acclimate them to the NFL much earlier.

Yes, Miami (OH) and Delaware are not top tier schools...but they ran pro style offenses with their QBs, and succeeded.

[riley420]

this has nothing to do with philosophy. it is deductive reasoning. Parity and free agency means league wide mediocrity. Players are starting too young before learning systems and players move around so most teams dont have cohesive units.

the jets are first in a weak league

There are 3-4 first or 2nd year QBs starting now. Sanchez, Flacco, Russel and Ryan. 3 of the 4 are good QBs on teams with great supporting casts.

The Jets may be in a weak division, but so are the Steelers...and they're 1-2.

[steeljake]

top 30 lifetime is not mediocre you uneducated moron. there was a point where he was top 20 to 30 in receiver categories in the entire history of football up to that time. That is not mediocre. Are you really that dumb dude ?

he was not semi known, he was well known in his time period. Just like the guys you consider well known in your recent time period. Are you so inept you cant understand that? Just because you didnt know something doesnt mean it wasnt well known.

Sorry, but that many young QBs cant be good that early unless the quality of play in the league has been dumbed down. To not understand that means you dont have a well rounded and in depth view of how things function haha

:youmad:

[ram29jackson]

No, just taking the time to educate your simplistic thought process.

[ram29jackson]

its called the salary cap

yep, that too.

[DoubleDeuce]

Maybe the quality of play from the YOUNG PLAYERS is rising. Ever think of that, oh elite one?

[St. Francisco]

No, just taking the time to educate your simplistic thought process.

[steeljake]

No, just taking the time to educate your simplistic thought process.

hmmm...

ok, and this is just my simple mind...

mr. harold jackson had only 3 1000 yard recieving years, and none of them were even with the rams. You say the young qb's do so well cuz the talent is lower and the league has been dumbed down...

how about this reason:

the nfl has made rules that make passing so much easier now that even in the 80's. guys are bigger faster and stronger and they play and train year round. maybe, and i mean this is a huge maybe, the game has gotten faster and more complex. we have the cover 2, the zone blitz, the 34, the 46, hell even zone D wasnt being played in the 70's until Chuck Knoll invented it, and madden invented the 34. you obviuosly ether are this harold jackson guy, related to him or have and/or want to suck his cock. either way you're a tool, and a moron when it comes to football knowledge. there is a 15 year old kid on here that will run circles around you talking about the nfl. please, stop trying to be aloof and either join in the football convo or fuck off. either one will be fine.

[Archer]

hmmm...

ok, and this is just my simple mind...

mr. harold jackson had only 3 1000 yard recieving years, and none of them were even with the rams. You say the young qb's do so well cuz the talent is lower and the league has been dumbed down...

how about this reason:

the nfl has made rules that make passing so much easier now that even in the 80's. guys are bigger faster and stronger and they play and train year round. maybe, and i mean this is a huge maybe, the game has gotten faster and more complex. we have the cover 2, the zone blitz, the 34, the 46, hell even zone D wasnt being played in the 70's until Chuck Knoll invented it, and madden invented the 34. you obviuosly ether are this harold jackson guy, related to him or have and/or want to suck his cock. either way you're a tool, and a moron when it comes to football knowledge. there is a 15 year old kid on here that will run circles around you talking about the nfl. please, stop trying to be aloof and either join in the football convo or fuck off. either one will be fine.

Don't forget the various looks of 1-5-5 , bear 46 , 1-5-5 prowl (where everybody walks around)

NFL Defenses have gotten much better and complexed in the last 10 years alone

[Woy]

this has nothing to do with philosophy. it is deductive reasoning. Parity and free agency means league wide mediocrity. Players are starting too young before learning systems and players move around so most teams dont have cohesive units.

the jets are first in a weak league

Oh. Shut. Up.

The league is weak? Then how the fuck do you explain some of the playoff teams from last year (Dolphins, Steelers, Titans, Panthers, Cardinals) having records under .500? The teams in the league are getting better, the league isn't getting worse.

I'm ashamed to know you're a Penn State fan cause you have zero knowledge about the game.

[ram29jackson]

hmmm...

ok, and this is just my simple mind...

mr. harold jackson had only 3 1000 yard receiving years, and none of them were even with the rams. You say the young qb's do so well cuz the talent is lower and the league has been dumbed down...

how about this reason:

the NFL has made rules that make passing so much easier now that even in the 80's. guys are bigger faster and stronger and they play and train year round. maybe, and i mean this is a huge maybe, the game has gotten faster and more complex. we have the cover 2, the zone blitz, the 34, the 46, hell even zone D wasn't being played in the 70's until Chuck Knoll invented it, and madden invented the 34. you obviously ether are this harold jackson guy, related to him or have and/or want to suck his cock. either way you're a tool, and a moron when it comes to football knowledge. there is a 15 year old kid on here that will run circles around you talking about the nfl. please, stop trying to be aloof and either join in the football convo or fuck off. either one will be fine.

where and how does this disprove anything i have said ? All you are doing is agreeing with me in a back handed way. He was a great wide receiver in a period where receivers did not get as many balls. 1000 yrd receivers means nothing really.16 game seasons and rules that cater to passing /receiving help those big numbers.

just because players are bigger ,stronger,faster- means nothing. Didnt you see where I said teams are winning purely on physical talent but not ultimately ;practiced teamwork execution . I forgive you for calling me a tool : )

[ram29jackson]

Oh. Shut. Up.

The league is weak? Then how the fuck do you explain some of the playoff teams from last year (Dolphins, Steelers, Titans, Panthers, Cardinals) having records under .500? The teams in the league are getting better, the league isn't getting worse.

I'm ashamed to know you're a Penn State fan cause you have zero knowledge about the game.

your statement makes no sense.