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  • steeljake
    6 rings...
    • Oct 2008
    • 8752

    nfl players are crying cheese...

    seriously people..

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    DAVIE, Fla. -- A gimmick? Nonsense? The Miami Dolphins don't like the way their Wildcat offense is being belittled.


    "If you don't want us to keep running it, stop it," Brown said. "Then we'll have to go to something else."

    The New York Jets were less than gracious after they failed to tame the Wildcat on Monday night in a 31-27 loss at Miami. The Dolphins gained 110 yards with the formation, including 2 on their final play for the winning score with 6 seconds left.

    Jets coach Rex Ryan described the Wildcat as a gimmick out of college. Linebacker Calvin Pace called the formation "nonsense."

    "I can't respect that stuff, all that Wildcat, because we're in the NFL, man," Pace told The New York Times.

    Pace amended his comments Wednesday, saying he tipped his hat to the Dolphins. Miami guard Justin Smiley said he couldn't understand the earlier remarks because the Wildcat involves little trickery.

    "We're not running any gimmick plays," Smiley said. "I don't think this catches anybody off guard. You know it's coming. Stop it if you can."

    Also defending the Wildcat were Dolphins defenders amused by the Jets' frustration.



    "I love nonsense," Miami linebacker Channing Crowder said. "They want to say gimmick this, gimmick that. The Wildcat is an offensive formation we've been running for two years. They have thousands of plays on film about it. Go stop it and shut up all the junk talking. They ain't going to give us no credit? We'll see them in three weeks."

    The Dolphins-Jets rematch is Nov. 1. Perhaps Pace was mindful of that when he spoke about the Wildcat on Wednesday, backpedaling more furiously than any Jets defender did in the game.

    "I said some things, and I definitely should've probably thought about it and rephrased it a little bit," Pace said. "That being said, I respect the Dolphins and I respect their team because they beat us. It's not like they went out there and stole the game from us."

    Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press


    23:33 OnlyOneBeerLeft: jake nobody listens to you aint you supposed to die from cancer or somethin soon?
  • Bmore
    The True Free-Man
    • Oct 2008
    • 6256

    #2
    Rex Ryan shut it down twice last year, so it can be done. They need to stop bitching, everyone runs the wildcat in some way, shape or form.


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    • steeljake
      6 rings...
      • Oct 2008
      • 8752

      #3
      he couldnt shut it down this year...


      23:33 OnlyOneBeerLeft: jake nobody listens to you aint you supposed to die from cancer or somethin soon?

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      • xCH0Nx
        Lets go Irish!
        • Jul 2009
        • 1104

        #4
        There is no cheese i real football. You cant say trick plays are cheese in the nfl. When the 'Phins line up in the wildcat you know what is comming. NFL stats dont read "yards rushing from trick plays" all it is is yards rushing. I really don't see why they are complaining about the wildcat anyway, did they forget that chad henne tore them up in his 2nd start. 20-26 for 241 yards. 2td no picks. And that wasn't out of the wildcat.

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        • davie
          Hey, relax guy!
          • Oct 2008
          • 2198

          #5
          Originally posted by steeljake75
          he couldnt shut it down this year...
          He doesn't have Haloti Ngata this year.

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          • Rayman
            Spic 'n Spanish
            • Feb 2009
            • 4626

            #6
            Mark Sanchez is no Chad Henne



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            • Tailback U
              No substitute 4 strength.
              • Nov 2008
              • 10282

              #7
              It comes down to execution and talent, just like any other formation.

              The Dolphins have gotten better at running the Wildcat because they have fine tuned their execution, expanded their playbook, and have bolstered their offensive line. Having two all-pro running backs doesn't hurt, either.

              At the same time, defenses will be better prepared the second time around.

              Knowing how to stop it and physically stopping it are two entirely different things. Rex Ryan obviously knows what needs to be done to contain it, but it comes down to the players on his defense to execute the assignments properly.

              I think the Jets will be better prepared for it the next time around. And Ronnie Brown averaged 3.5 yards a carry against the Jets so it's not like he was just running all over them.

              What really hurt the Jets was the time of possession that the Fins had the ball for. Teams need to do a better job of stopping the Fins on 3rd down or they are going to be in for a long night and get worn out.
              Last edited by Tailback U; 10-15-2009, 12:15 PM.

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              • Juggernaut
                Sitting on the Sidelines
                • Dec 2008
                • 5670

                #8
                Originally posted by XxX cHoN xXx
                There is no cheese i real football. You cant say trick plays are cheese in the nfl. When the 'Phins line up in the wildcat you know what is comming. NFL stats dont read "yards rushing from trick plays" all it is is yards rushing. I really don't see why they are complaining about the wildcat anyway, did they forget that chad henne tore them up in his 2nd start. 20-26 for 241 yards. 2td no picks. And that wasn't out of the wildcat.
                During the game they had different stats up for

                Pass Yards

                Run Yards

                Run from Wildcat

                Wildcat under pat White


                Shows that someone out there is keeping track of the plays and yards.

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                But i agree, it's not really cheese if its done in the NFL. The wildcat imo is more of a college looking formation. You really are esentially taking out the qb and moving him to the side to do nothing.

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                • DSpydr84
                  I need a sub
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2605

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tailback U
                  It comes down to execution and talent, just like any other formation.

                  The Dolphins have gotten better at running the Wildcat because they have fine tuned their execution, expanded their playbook, and have bolstered their offensive line. Having two all-pro running backs doesn't hurt, either.

                  At the same time, defenses will be better prepared the second time around.

                  Knowing how to stop it and physically stopping it are two entirely different things. Rex Ryan obviously knows what needs to be done to contain it, but it comes down to the players on his defense to execute the assignments properly.

                  I think the Jets will be better prepared for it the next time around. And Ronnie Brown averaged 3.5 yards a carry against the Jets so it's not like he was just running all over them.

                  What really hurt the Jets was the time of possession that the Fins had the ball for. Teams need to do a better job of stopping the Fins on 3rd down or they are going to be in for a long night and get worn out.
                  Yeah, and to go along with that, I thought it was pretty clear watching the game (and the Dolphins/Colts game) that Miami was the far more physical football team. The Wildcat is working because the Dolphins are dominating the guys in front of them.. not because it's a "gimmick" or "trick play". Because really, the Wildcat is nothing more than a ghost reverse (where the receiver goes in motion and the QB gives the ball to the RB and fakes it to the WR coming across).

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                  • Miami Flash15
                    The Jets Suck
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 8696

                    #10
                    Not our fault the Jets ran it once and got stuffed. LOL


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                    • Archer
                      Go the fuck outside
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 15303

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bmore
                      Rex Ryan shut it down twice last year, so it can be done. They need to stop bitching, everyone runs the wildcat in some way, shape or form.
                      Colts have never tried it

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                      • jaxjaggywires
                        Eradicator!!
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1693

                        #12
                        Sounds painful...is it gouda? Maybe a nice camembert?
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                        • steeljake
                          6 rings...
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 8752

                          #13
                          it obviously takes a big presence up front and jenkins could not get it done this past week.

                          lol @ archer saying the Colts havent tried the wildcat... who in their right mind would take peyton mannig off the field?


                          23:33 OnlyOneBeerLeft: jake nobody listens to you aint you supposed to die from cancer or somethin soon?

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                          • kmanharris
                            Seven
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 6427

                            #14
                            he was just replying to someone who said EVERY team uses it in some way, shape or form.

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                            • Mogriffjr
                              aka Reece
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2759

                              #15
                              it's funny, the Jets run a pretty good wildcat, especially when one of our WR's, Brad Smith can handle the football (when he really doesn't...Washington does this).
                              Originally posted by Nick Mangold
                              Wes Welker is a great player. He's really taken advantage of watching film. If we don't keep a Spy on him, he could really open the Gate.

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