nfl players are crying cheese...

[DSpydr84]

What does it take to effectively contain the Wildcat? Does the importance shift to any certain group of defenders or...what? I really have no clue. I would guess faster LB's to keep up with any hand-offs or pitches of the ball, but I really don't know.

You know how a defense will bring a safety into the box to help against the run? The Wildcat is bascially the offenses version of that. They're adding a blocker in the running game because everyone is involved in the play (because normally the QB hands off the ball and he's no longer involved in the play. If the running back IS the quarterback, you now have one additional blocker).

But just like an 8-man front is beatable, so is the Wildcat. The problem is you need a seperate scheme designed to stop it.. chances are you can't play your shell Cover 1 defense and be effective, you need to make sure your safeties are rotating properly with the motion, everyone knows their role in protecting their gap, and the pass is adequately covered. And teams only have a week to prepare for it, which makes it even more effective.

Even with all of this, though, you still need your players to perform on the field. Miami's offensive line has been nothing short of dominant this season, and they're leading the league in rushing with or without the Wildcat as far as I'm concerned. When your offensive line is pushing people back, AND you have an extra blocker, that's when you can get 6-10 yards per carry by running one formation.

[Archer]

it obviously takes a big presence up front and jenkins could not get it done this past week.

lol @ archer saying the Colts havent tried the wildcat... who in their right mind would take peyton mannig off the field?

Bmore said everybody have tried it

I just pointed out we haven't

And you are right .... a big presence really helps . They highlighted that Ngata was the main difference when they tried it on the Baltimore

[MmmmBeeeeer]

I still see it as a gimmick offense, you don't win championships running that. Hopefully for LOLphins fans they at least make a wildcard bid.

[ram29jackson]

Rex Ryan shut it down twice last year, so it can be done. They need to stop bitching, everyone runs the wildcat in some way, shape or form.

no, only teams with various weaknesses run the wildcat for a stint here and there. The fact is, a team that relies heavily on the wildcat will not go deep into the playoffs. its just a run play and wont be effective in the long run.

the Dolphins won , big deal. Neither the jets nor' Dolphins will be major playoff contenders. They may get in, but thats it.

[DJ Fog]

I love how Miami is being described as such a dominant offensive team, yet they are 2-3.


The Jets were too bland against the wild cat. Put 9/10 guys in the box and just read off the play. Keep one safety back just in case. Idk what the problem is with stopping it.


It's not cheese, and to complain about the wildcat is childish.

The Jets don't run the Wildcat.. they run the Seminole.


(Alright, it's the same thing)

[MVP1991]

Rex Ryan shut it down twice last year, so it can be done. They need to stop bitching, everyone runs the wildcat in some way, shape or form.

With a fantastic defense and going up against 3 backup interior offensive linemen.

[steeljake]

the wildcat alone is not enough to win, but neither is a running game for that matter. with chad pennington this year, since teh suprise has worn off, that team was 0-3. with a qb who can burn you deep they are 2-0. this wildcat is just like spydr said, it is 11 on 11 instead of 11 on 10 since you take the quarterback out of theplay. this is no different that the old reskins counter tre they used to run with riggins all day. people knew it was coming and they ran it successfully anyways. rams29 is a complete moron, this offense can be sucessful in the playoffs, and most likely will be especially if Henne stays on the path he is on. What will make this wildcat so much more deadly is when the pat white cheese really gets going.

[steeljake]

It's all about WildHorses

no, for you it's all about defense.

[DSpydr84]

I love how Miami is being described as such a dominant offensive team, yet they are 2-3.


The Jets were too bland against the wild cat. Put 9/10 guys in the box and just read off the play. Keep one safety back just in case. Idk what the problem is with stopping it.


It's not cheese, and to complain about the wildcat is childish.

The Jets don't run the Wildcat.. they run the Seminole.


(Alright, it's the same thing)

Maybe cause you don't have enough players to put 9/10 in the box and still have a safety back just in case?? I don't know.. sounds pretty easy to have Ronnie Brown throw a quick screen to a wide open receiver on the outside if you're saying you wouldn't put anybody on those guys.

[ram29jackson]

rams29 is a complete moron, this offense can be sucessful in the playoffs, and most likely will be especially if Henne stays on the path he is on.


oh so wrong immature Internet stranger. You just try to make predictions which ever way the wind blows.

and just for the nit-picky record Mr. Wannabe know-it-all. You spelled successful wrong.

love ya' jake haha

[ram29jackson]

What will make this wildcat so much more deadly is when the pat white cheese really gets going.[/QUOTE]

its not the wildcat if White is in shot gun. it becomes a shotgun spread because your a fool to run a real QB that much on purpose in the NFL.

[Archer]

What will make this wildcat so much more deadly is when the pat white cheese really gets going.

its not the wildcat if White is in shot gun. it becomes a shotgun spread because your a fool to run a real QB that much on purpose in the NFL.

First of all - Fix the quote or don't try at all please

Second , White is hardly a "real QB" .... he ran the pure spread in college and was according to most people , better at running then he was passing . He had games where he would carry it 20 times

Of course v NFL defenses you wouldn't ask him to run 20 times but I'm sure they have no worry about asking him to carry the ball 5-7 times if it was working

[steeljake]

not if that qb is your back up and his best skill is his speed.

[ram29jackson]

First of all - Fix the quote or don't try at all please

Second , White is hardly a "real QB" .... he ran the pure spread in college and was according to most people , better at running then he was passing . He had games where he would carry it 20 times

Of course v NFL defenses you wouldn't ask him to run 20 times but I'm sure they have no worry about asking him to carry the ball 5-7 times if it was working

another example why the wildcat is a fad and waste of time to a team that has its proper elements in place. if your back up isnt a real QB, replacing the real QB if he gets injured. and than the back up not real QB gets injured. The team is screwed. My point being, a team is going to draft a QB who they think is good at QB. If he is only good at being a QB in the wildcat, the draft was wasted and not effective in the long run or even near future.

[Archer]

another example why the wildcat is a fad and waste of time to a team that has its proper elements in place. if your back up isnt a real QB, replacing the real QB if he gets injured. and than the back up not real QB gets injured. The team is screwed. My point being, a team is going to draft a QB who they think is good at QB. If he is only good at being a QB in the wildcat, the draft was wasted and not effective in the long run or even near future.

Well the jury is out on whether White can play quarterback in the NFL

He had a stellar college career but that was in the spread option (If I remember correctly)

It's basicly the main reason + his size why he was taking in the 2nd round even though he had a better career than some ahead of him.

It's a game of using what your team is good at .... the Fins have 3 good runningbacks . So why shouldn't they put um all on the feild at the same time . They also have a highly paid run blocking offensive line ... another + to running these sort of formations

Chad Pennington (I know it's Henne now) + these wrs in a conventional offense would be less effective than the sort of style they use right now