Will Eagles de-activate Vick?

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  • KillaK
    Dreams!
    • Jun 2009
    • 931

    #16
    Yesterday I had some guys come in to my job and bitch about the Eagles not using Vick properly. It was pretty annoying because they just put up 40 on the Giants without him. I don't see what Vick can do that McNabb cant, maybe other than being a little faster.

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    • Fox1994
      Posts too much
      • Dec 2008
      • 5327

      #17
      I wish they'd cut him and Crazy Old Al would sign him. JMarc might be one of the few QBs less accurate than him... Plus, Vick can actually move behind a terrible O-line, whereas Russell isn't fast enough to scramble well behind that aforementioned terrible O-line... And Vick is used to having subpar receivers... Or maybe they just look subpar because they're playing with JMarc, like Manning is making superstars of those two cats I can't name.
      Last edited by Fox1994; 11-04-2009, 09:21 PM.

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      • NAHSTE
        Probably owns the site
        • Feb 2009
        • 22233

        #18
        Originally posted by ralaw
        As great as the Wildcat can be I don’t think it’s a good system for Vick. The majority of Vick’s success as a runner came on broken plays or on plays where the team was still in a passing formation. The problem with the Wildcat is that teams know if Vick is behind center he more than likely is going to be running the ball. Vick is a QB with the ability to run….not a runner who can throw a football sometimes.
        I agree with this. But who says you can't throw out of the formation? And who says Vick lining up in a Shotgun absolutely has to be "Wildcat"? Can't Vick just take a snap out of the QB spot and throw or run as needed?

        Not that the Eagles should be wasting their time trying to get him involved right now when they are in the thick of a division race, just saying that there are other ways to effectively utilize him and I don't think the Eagles have fully realized them.

        Perhaps Vick will move on to a new team and find a more ideal situation.

        Originally posted by dave
        Here's a thought - maybe Vick isn't what Vick used to be.

        So far (and I watch every Eagles game religiously), I've seen nothing from Vick that reminds me of the old Vick, save for the 7 on his jersey.
        He seems tentative, slower, etc...

        The Eagles should not be wasting their time on him when they're trying to win a title. If they were an 8-8 team, Cleveland or a team trying to fill the stands, ok, but they're not.
        I agree he doesn't look as fast or explosive. Prison time can do that to you though. I'd imagine he's still getting his confidence back as well since the long layoff.

        I agree with your last point too, Philly isn't a great situation for him at the moment.

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        • dave
          Go the fuck outside
          • Oct 2008
          • 15492

          #19
          Originally posted by NAHSTE13
          I agree he doesn't look as fast or explosive. Prison time can do that to you though.
          You'd think it'd be the opposite.
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          • Prodigal Son
            The Greatest
            • Feb 2009
            • 2338

            #20
            Why is it even called the fucking wildcat when a quarterback is the one taking the snap? Stupid ass people.

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            • NAHSTE
              Probably owns the site
              • Feb 2009
              • 22233

              #21
              Originally posted by Prodigal Son
              Why is it even called the fucking wildcat when a quarterback is the one taking the snap? Stupid ass people.
              Been saying this for years. But just to warn you, the idiots will say "Because the line is unbalanced and there is jet motion pre-snap!"

              But to that, I say, it's just a shotgun formation with an unbalanced line...Without the fancy name, it's still just a formation like any other.

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              • USCChifan
                All-Star
                • Oct 2009
                • 1172

                #22
                Michael Vick is useless to the Eagles. He's only used in the Wildcat which they seldom use, and when they do they don't gain much yardage. The only team that's good at running the "Wildcat" is the Dolphins w/ Ronnie Brown at QB.

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                • Tengo Juego
                  Posts a lot
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 4289

                  #23
                  Originally posted by dave
                  I think they should just release him, re-sign Garcia and be done with this experiment.
                  Nothing against Vick, but the team shouldn't be dealing with these kinds of questions when they're a serious NFC contender.
                  OR, just let Vick be the fuckin backup. Why does he have to be part of the gameplan?

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                  • Bear Pand
                    RIP Indy Colts
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 5945

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Fox1994
                    I wish they'd cut him and Crazy Old Al would sign him. JMarc might be one of the few QBs less accurate than him... Plus, Vick can actually move behind a terrible O-line, whereas Russell isn't fast enough to scramble well behind that aforementioned terrible O-line... And Vick is used to having subpar receivers... Or maybe they just look subpar because they're playing with JMarc, like Manning is making superstars of those two cats I can't name.
                    Vicks dad (Tony Dungy) already told him not to sign with the Raiders.

                    After a reel of lowlights from Sunday's 44-7 Raiders loss, the NBC Football Night in America roundtable took aim at the state of the Raider organization. "I advised Michael Vick not to go there," Dungy said on the broadcast. "I said, 'Mike, you might be able to start there but that is not a good place for you."


                    Originally posted by Tengo Juego
                    OR, just let Vick be the fuckin backup. Why does he have to be part of the gameplan?
                    This. He's a solid third quarterback, and even though he's probably overpaid to be a third stringer, he did have really high jersey sales and can come in every now and then. Eagles should let him sit back and learn for a while and hope they eventually get something out of it.
                    Last edited by Bear Pand; 11-08-2009, 05:44 AM.

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