Rookie of the Year, So far?

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  • Tengo Juego
    Posts a lot
    • Jun 2009
    • 4289

    #46
    Originally posted by Lahey


    Just like your post is contributing to this thread.
    Too early to make a ROY pick. So I joined in on another conversation.

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    • wr50l
      Glen & CJ are secret Huns
      • Oct 2008
      • 4114

      #47
      Harvin is the only rookie I've seen week in week out so rather than nominate I'll just give my thoughts on his performance.

      Harvin is probably the best kick returner in football this season. He is consistently brilliant and has given us not just good field position but excellent field position; especially when it matters most. I'm surprised teams are still kicking to him.

      As a receiver he's Favre go to guy. He was the first receiver Favre clicked with and only recently have the other guys got on that same rapport. On 3rd down, the ball is going to Harvin, and it's probably going lead to a 1st down.

      As a runner he's a good gadget guy and has had more than reasonable success both as the type of end around carrier and from the backfield the traditional way.

      I honestly believe he has been our offensive player of the year so far.

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      • FirstTimer
        Freeman Error

        • Feb 2009
        • 18720

        #48
        Johnny Knox>Mike Wallace for ROY

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        • KoRnStARr
          Noob
          • Apr 2009
          • 532

          #49
          Originally posted by kaygdanimal
          good point about the 8-ITB.

          Santonio Holmes has not put up numbers that remind us of last season's burst. I cannot tell you why but it's just something I've noticed. Hines Ward is on the downside of his career and really has not been playing as well as he's known for and that. As for Mike Wallace, it's not so much a knock on his ability but rather pointing out his situation. He beat out Limas Sweed ... which from everything I've heard about Limas Sweed, that was apparently not hard to do, and while teams are keying on Ward and Holmes, Mike Wallace stepped up. Those are fantastic numbers for a slot receiver but again, I was just looking at the situation. One piece of info that should help his case is that he's had no running game that frightened defenses. Willie Parker doesn't frighten anyone and Mendenhall only recently burst onto the scene in Parker's abscense. This allowed defenses to play the pass and by focusing on Holmes and Ward, they've opened up the door for the little-known Mike Wallace.

          *Speaking of "little-known" Mike Wallace, I had no idea he was even a rookie because for whatever reason, my mind kept mixing his name up with Taco Wallace (no idea why) and I knew he'd been in the league a while.

          Going back to Harvin, Sidney Rice and Bernard Berrian were little-known players as well. I mean, everyone knows Randy Moss and Terrell Owens and Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin and Santonio Holmes, but they most likely couldn't have named a Vikings receiver off the top of their head when prompted before the season started. I only mention Holmes in that group because of his Super Bowl performance and people are very likely to know of him. So in truth, Harvin could have benefitted from the 8-ITB and so could have Rice and Berrian. However, between Rice and Berrian, Rice is the only one stepping up in terms of making catches downfield while Berrian appears to be benefitting from Rice and Harvin, not Harvin benefitting from Rice and Berrian.
          Hines Ward is having a great year..no idea where that comment came from bout him not playing well jeez.

          Mike Wallace makes his case every week..
           


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          • KoRnStARr
            Noob
            • Apr 2009
            • 532

            #50
            Originally posted by Firsttimer
            Johnny Knox>Mike Wallace for ROY
            this has to be a joke..
             


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            • strahanfan92
              Meat
              • Aug 2009
              • 5455

              #51
              Yeah personally I would take Harvin or Wallace over Nicks because of impact on the games. Nicks has been great and probably has the nicest stats (Yards, TDs, and best YPC) but it seems like he has a lot of big plays in trash time of the 4th quarter i.e. Chiefs & Saints TD whereas both Harvin and Wallace are changing games singlehandly. And don't take away from Wallace just because he plays with two solid WRs, the guy has showed up and made plays when they need em.

              Anywho, it's waayyyyy to early to decide the RoTY anyway and it's the biggest fucking sham that pro-bowl voting has already started aswell.

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              • FirstTimer
                Freeman Error

                • Feb 2009
                • 18720

                #52
                Originally posted by KoRnStARr
                this has to be a joke..
                I thought the same thing when I first saw your haircut....

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                • DomePatrol
                  Urdnot Style
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1625

                  #53
                  Originally posted by KoRnStARr
                  this has to be a joke..
                  Why is your avatar you?

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                  • EmpireWF
                    Giants in the Super Bowl
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 24082

                    #54
                    No way should Nicks be a ROTY candidate just yet. He's not getting a ton of playing time and most of his big plays are one and done.


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                    • Esjay
                      Luck2Hilton
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 2328

                      #55
                      Originally posted by DomePatrol
                      Why is your avatar you?
                      Because he's an egotistical jackass. Always has been, but it got substantially worse after he figured out he could cheese people online for money.

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                      • f16harm
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                        • Feb 2009
                        • 2183

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Mogriffjr
                        why the fuck would I need to talk about the 2 right before he sucked? You said there hasn't been improvement, I stated and backed up my statement with facts, therefore i'm right and your wrong.

                        typical dumb fucking fins fan.

                        P.S. what does that have to do with Sanchez? lol...when your wrong, you usually try to find ways your right. Congrats on those two wins. ;)
                        Today:
                        53% completions
                        212yds
                        1TD
                        2INTs


                        ....but he's improving because he put together 2 good games out of 9.

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                        • DomePatrol
                          Urdnot Style
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1625

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Esjay
                          Because he's an egotistical jackass. Always has been, but it got substantially worse after he figured out he could cheese people online for money.

                          ooo so he thinks he is important? thats funny

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                          • steeljake
                            6 rings...
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 8752

                            #58
                            it looked like ben was forcing it to wallace some, but he had 2 straight up drops.


                            23:33 OnlyOneBeerLeft: jake nobody listens to you aint you supposed to die from cancer or somethin soon?

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                            • Mogriffjr
                              aka Reece
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2759

                              #59
                              Originally posted by f16harm
                              Today:
                              53% completions
                              212yds
                              1TD
                              2INTs


                              ....but he's improving because he put together 2 good games out of 9.
                              lmao you fucking fans need to drive off a cliff

                              at the time i said that it was an improvement.

                              he had a struggle last game after two good games and you bring this up...i was right at the time...so fuck off.
                              Originally posted by Nick Mangold
                              Wes Welker is a great player. He's really taken advantage of watching film. If we don't keep a Spy on him, he could really open the Gate.

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                              • f16harm
                                -
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 2183

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Mogriffjr
                                lmao you fucking fans need to drive off a cliff

                                at the time i said that it was an improvement.

                                he had a struggle last game after two good games and you bring this up...i was right at the time...so fuck off.
                                still mad I see...

                                He had 2 good games back to back. He is not improving, he still has terrible numbers when you look at 9 games out of 9.

                                BTW...nice game yesterday.

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