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  • Senser81
    VSN Poster of the Year
    • Feb 2009
    • 12804

    #16
    I have no idea why the trend in the NFL is to give head coaching jobs to spazzy, inexperienced coordinators, but I think the trend stops this year. Too many guys with actual head coaching experience out there. The only "inexperienced coordinator" hire that has worked out is Mike Tomlin, but he came into a situation where the organization was stable and the assistants were experienced. I don't understand how these NFL teams can clean house then expect some retard like Steve Spagnulo to actually oversee the entire operation.

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    • Warner2BruceTD
      2011 Poster Of The Year
      • Mar 2009
      • 26142

      #17
      Originally posted by Sven Draconian
      So winning a meaningless game shoud be the objective over developing the team's attitude and developing young players? The Lions agree.
      Call me crazy, but actually winning football games is probably the fastest way to "develop the teams attitude" and form some sort of identity.


      Originally posted by Sven Draconian
      This is true. However, I guess I give the benefit of the doubt to the NFL head coach who has spent nearly 27 years coaching football and has a super bowl ring.
      I gave him the benefit of the doubt, too....three months ago. He's starting to form patterns.

      Originally posted by Sven Draconian
      Even assuming he did fuck things up this year, should you REALLY can a guy after one bad season (coughClevelandBrownscough).
      Cam Cameron says hi.

      But to be honest, as much as I think he's woefully in over his head, with the condition this roster is in (all his doing, btw, along with GM Bill Devaney), you almost have to let him come back. Maybe this master plan of "let's field a team of fringe players and practice squad signees" will eventually pan out. It's his monkey, let's watch him fuck it.

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      • steeljake
        6 rings...
        • Oct 2008
        • 8752

        #18
        cam went 1-15 and the whole oragnaization was swept clean. maybe the rams will do that if they get new owners, but i think that spags desrves at leats one more year. he has to be doing someting right jackson is towing the line.


        23:33 OnlyOneBeerLeft: jake nobody listens to you aint you supposed to die from cancer or somethin soon?

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        • Warner2BruceTD
          2011 Poster Of The Year
          • Mar 2009
          • 26142

          #19
          He seems to be a great motivator, i'll give him that. The team plays hard, something they never did for Linehan. It's about the only good thing I see out of him.

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          • steeljake
            6 rings...
            • Oct 2008
            • 8752

            #20
            what does the off season look like for the rams? do they have cap room and all of their picks? if they have a chance to build and get the pieces they need and then spags fucks it up then you bounce him. but IMO there is no way you bounce him with that sorry group he has now.

            edit: wies is availible and has was a pretty good offensive coordinator.
            Last edited by steeljake; 12-02-2009, 10:54 AM.


            23:33 OnlyOneBeerLeft: jake nobody listens to you aint you supposed to die from cancer or somethin soon?

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            • Warner2BruceTD
              2011 Poster Of The Year
              • Mar 2009
              • 26142

              #21
              Originally posted by steeljake75
              what does the off season look like for the rams? do they have cap room and all of their picks? if they have a chance to build and get the pieces they need and then spags fucks it up then you bounce him. but IMO there is no way you bounce him with that sorry group he has now.

              edit: wies is availible and has was a pretty good offensive coordinator.
              They will have plenty of cap room, and all of their picks.

              On one hand, I agree when it comes to the state of the roster. On the other hand, it was Spags who purged the veterans. It's hard to cut him slack on the roster, when it was his doing. The Rams are starting guys literally off the street and off of practice squads. This team has the look of a 5 year rebuild, and 5 year rebuilds don't cut it in 2009. If the roster dosent improve, and these practice squad "diamonds in the rough" don't pan out, he not only has to go, but the team will be in far worse shape than when Linehan left, which is mind boggling.

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              • Warner2BruceTD
                2011 Poster Of The Year
                • Mar 2009
                • 26142

                #22
                Originally posted by steeljake75
                edit: wies is availible and has was a pretty good offensive coordinator.
                Weis is waaaaay to progressive for Spags, who thinks it's 1974 and carrries just as many TE's (4) and he does WR's. The gameplan consists of vanilla off tackles and dives, with the occassional slant to Danny Amendola. Maybe Woody Hayes is available.

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                • Hasselbeck
                  Jus' bout dat action boss
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 6175

                  #23
                  Spags coaching ideals obviously stem from what was successful in New York. Hardnose D, great running game.. pass when necessary.

                  Right now the only thing Spags has going for him is Steven Jackson. It'll take time to build up the D and the passing game.

                  Unlike Mangini in Cleveland (who is a lost cause as a coach ANYWHERE).. Spags deserves time.. much like Jim Schwartz in Detroit - just because the record isn't there, doesn't mean the improvement isn't.
                  Originally posted by ram29jackson
                  I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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                  • Sven Draconian
                    Not a Scandanavian
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1319

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Hasselbeck
                    Spags coaching ideals obviously stem from what was successful in New York. Hardnose D, great running game.. pass when necessary.

                    Right now the only thing Spags has going for him is Steven Jackson. It'll take time to build up the D and the passing game.

                    Unlike Mangini in Cleveland (who is a lost cause as a coach ANYWHERE).. Spags deserves time.. much like Jim Schwartz in Detroit - just because the record isn't there, doesn't mean the improvement isn't.

                    Agreed on Mangini, that guys is clueless.

                    Warner2Bruce, think about this.

                    Linehan had a teamt hat did not want to play football. Locker room cancers, lazy veterans (overpaid) ect. ect. That roster wasn't going to win this year anyway (They just blew under Linehan...remember).

                    Theres two courses of action. 1) Say fuck it, cut the cancer and take your lumps for a season and try and develop young players. Or 2) Go Rod Marinelli and play the lazy, underserving veterans anyway. Rod wins 3 games then 7 games before the bottom drops off (because the players realize he's full of shit about earning a spot, accountability ect...) and the whole team quits and you go 0-16.

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                    • mcstl25
                      M-Castle
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 2434

                      #25
                      I've said this many of times, Spags gets a free pass in year one. Improvement needs to be seen in year two. Until this past Sunday, I really felt that the Rams were making progress. I wasn't able to watch the game this Sunday, for obvious reasons, but all indications were that the game wasn't pretty. Regardless, I'm not sure how you can have so much hate for a first year coach that inherited a horrible team.

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                      • TimsGiants
                        18 and 1
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1567

                        #26
                        18-1.... he stopped the unstoppable. If Rams dont want him the Gmen will take him back in a second. He inherited a dump..takes some time to shape it up.

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