Weis out as Notre Dame coach... Who's your pick to replace him?

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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    #91
    Notre Dame is unlikely to go to a bowl game according to wide spread reports.

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    • FirstTimer
      Freeman Error

      • Feb 2009
      • 18729

      #92
      Notre Dame is not going to a bowl this year.

      Now it's being reported on ESPN (via the Chicago Sun Times) saying that Bob Stoops is the leading candidate for the job and it may be filled as early as tomorrow.

      Bob Stoops has come out and said "I will not be the next head coach at Notre Dame"

      It's also being reported that Brian Kelly told his players that he "not going" to Notre Dame.

      Phil Fullmer says he is interested in the job and reports say he wants to get back into coaching badly and "covets" the Notre Dame job.
      Last edited by FirstTimer; 12-05-2009, 11:23 PM.

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      • Sportsbuck
        Buckeye For Life
        • Dec 2008
        • 3045

        #93
        Just to add on to what Firsttimer said, should Bob Stoops take the ND job, its rumored Kelly will be Oklahoma's top choice as his replacement.

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        • FirstTimer
          Freeman Error

          • Feb 2009
          • 18729

          #94
          Notre Dame now says they are not close to naming a coach and the Sun Times has removed the story about the coaching position being filled as soon as tomorrow.

          This is getting fucking crazy.
          Last edited by FirstTimer; 12-05-2009, 11:40 PM.

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          • FirstTimer
            Freeman Error

            • Feb 2009
            • 18729

            #95
            Also, a hilarious article from BlueGraySky.com about the coaching rumor mill.



            Here's an object lesson in how rumors get started, and how quickly they spread in the internet age.

            1. Friend of BGS decides (not at our behest, by the way) to email the rumor site FootballCoachScoop.com with a choice tidbit. FootballCoachScoop seems to post all kinds of unsubstantiated rumors, and said friend wants to see how easy it is to get something started.

            2. Friend composes a very short, but specific email: I used to work in the athletic department at Notre Dame (a lie), and I have heard that Jack Swarbrick is interested in Bret Bielema, the head coach at the University of Wisconsin. This was at 6:56pm last evening. The email is sent from a free gmail account. There is no other email sent from friend, no attempt to "sell" the rumor beyond the initial communication, and nothing else to back up his credibility.

            3. Meanwhile, friend has another buddy randomly tweet a few times about the Bielema rumors, and goes to bed.

            4. FootballCoachScoop does not reply to the email. FootballCoachScoop does not ask any followup questions. FootballCoachScoop, to friend's knowledge, makes no attempt to verify emailer's bona fides in any way.

            5. The next morning, FootballCoachScoop runs the rumor almost verbatim. Friend chuckles and shares the development with a few friends.

            6. Later in the day, BGS notices a piece posted to "the Examiner", a Huffington Post-style blogging site that allows anyone with an email address to register as a "reporter." Joshua Burns picks up on the FootballScoop item and pens this:

            Notre Dame AD to talk with Wisconsin head coach Bret Bielema this weekend
            December 4, 2:15 PM Cincinnati Bearcats Examiner Joshua Burns

            Another day, another new name has surfaced in the Notre Dame head coaching search.

            According to FootballCoachScoop.com, Irish AD Jack Swarbrick is "very interested" in talking to Wisconsin head coach Bret Bielema, after the Badgers trip from Hawaii this weekend.

            Bielema's name has not been mentioned in prior discussions about the Notre Dame opening. He joins a list of reported candidates that includes Jim Harbaugh (Stanford), Skip Holtz (ECU), Randy Edsall (UConn), and Brian Kelly (Cincinnati).

            Bielema was an assistant coach at the University of Iowa from 1993 to 2001. He then became the co-defensive coordinator for Kansas State University from 2002 to 2003. He took the same position at the University of Wisconsin–Madison in 2004.

            The Wisconsin coach joins a chaotic rumer mill surrounding the Irish head coaching void left by the firing of Charlie Weis. Most expect answers to many of the questions surrounding the search after this weekend, the last regular-season weekend before bowl games begin.

            "Examiner" posts have sometimes popped up in my google reader, linked alongside legitimate news stories from legitimate news outlets. I wonder if it will show up.

            UPDATE: voilà, there it is. This is now on a national newswire.

            In the meantime, please know that to our knowledge, there is absolutely no truth to the rumor that Jack Swarbrick is in any way interested in Bret Bielema as the next coach for Notre Dame.

            And please, most of all...don't trust the internet!

            UPDATE II: John Taylor, blogging for NBCsports.com, picked up the rumor from FootballCoachScoop, but then realized it was a goof, and printed a pretty entertaining retraction.

            UPDATE III: This is officially hilarious. A Madison.com reporter, Jim Polzin, picked up the FootballCoachScoop rumor and actually tracked down Bielema in Hawaii for a statement. He also called Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez. Both men, of course, had no idea what Polzin was talking about and denied any contact between Notre Dame and themselves.

            UPDATE IV: Polzin catches on, and updates his story with a link to this post. In the meantime, ESPN blogger Adam Rittenberg has also published the rumor but quickly retracted it.

            Okay, enough rumor-busting for the evening. Have a great weekend, everyone.

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            • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
              Highwayman
              • Feb 2009
              • 15429

              #96
              Originally posted by Firsttimer
              Notre Dame is not going to a bowl this year.

              Now it's being reported on ESPN (via the Chicago Sun Times) saying that Bob Stoops is the leading candidate for the job and it may be filled as early as tomorrow.

              Bob Stoops has come out and said "I will not be the next head coach at Notre Dame"

              It's also being reported that Brian Kelly told his players that he "not going" to Notre Dame.

              Phil Fullmer says he is interested in the job and reports say he wants to get back into coaching badly and "covets" the Notre Dame job.
              Funny enough, you have the "leading" candidates saying "I'm not going there" and you have two guys...Phil Fulmer and Butch Davis saying they want the job (for Butch, it is his wife starting up the PR machine...either for a raise at UNC or something)...

              Does ND have a hiring committee or are they winging this?

              This is the kind of shit they needed to avoid, really...

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              • padman59
                Slayer of Demons
                • Mar 2009
                • 5709

                #97
                The Bielema hoax was hilarious. I got a good chuckle when it made it to ESPN.com. It seems as though most (if not all) of the rumors have been people throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks.

                I'm not sure what to make of the silence surrounding the coaching search though. Five years ago, it seemed like the old AD faxed the media his list of candidates, and everyone knew what was happening behind the scenes. Hopefully, Swarbrick is playing his cards close to the chest, and he has a clear list of candidates in mind.
                Last edited by padman59; 12-05-2009, 11:56 PM.

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                • FirstTimer
                  Freeman Error

                  • Feb 2009
                  • 18729

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Larry
                  Funny enough, you have the "leading" candidates saying "I'm not going there" and you have two guys...Phil Fulmer and Butch Davis saying they want the job (for Butch, it is his wife starting up the PR machine...either for a raise at UNC or something)...

                  Does ND have a hiring committee or are they winging this?

                  This is the kind of shit they needed to avoid, really...
                  No one really knows. Swabrick isn't saying a heck of a lot. There are rumors of him working with a "search firm" to get input there are also report talking about him talking to NFL coaches and former college AD's, coaches, etc about what to look for.

                  I agree they need to avoid it but TBH this shit coming out isn't really their fault. Swarbrick hasn't said much of anything and all these reports flying around are just unsubstantiated rumors that ND has little or nothing to do with and even less power to stop. I mean we see from the stuff I posted above it's pretty easy to start a rumor.

                  I'd love to see ND hire a guy soon and end all this but I also don't want them to rush it.

                  Fullmer, Davis, and Edsall are all interesting possibilities.

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                  • FirstTimer
                    Freeman Error

                    • Feb 2009
                    • 18729

                    #99
                    Originally posted by padman59
                    The Bielema hoax was hilarious. I got a good chuckle when it made it to ESPN.com. It seems as though most (if not all) of the rumors have been people throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks.

                    I'm not sure what to make of the silence surrounding the coaching search though. Five years ago, it seemed like the old AD faxed the media his list of candidates, and everyone knew what was happening behind the scenes. Hopefully, Swarbrick is playing his cards close to the chest, and he has a clear list of candidates in mind.
                    Agreed. I mean part of it is frustrating not knowing what is going on but at the same time I respect the way Swarbrick is playing this whole thing out. Sure it gives rise to rumors but the people being contacted and doing the contacting know the real scoop of what is going on and I guess in the end that's all that is important.

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                    • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                      Highwayman
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 15429

                      Originally posted by Firsttimer
                      No one really knows. Swabrick isn't saying a heck of a lot. There are rumors of him working with a "search firm" to get input there are also report talking about him talking to NFL coaches and former college AD's, coaches, etc about what to look for.

                      I agree they need to avoid it but TBH this shit coming out isn't really their fault. Swarbrick hasn't said much of anything and all these reports flying around are just unsubstantiated rumors that ND has little or nothing to do with and even less power to stop. I mean we see from the stuff I posted above it's pretty easy to start a rumor.

                      I'd love to see ND hire a guy soon and end all this but I also don't want them to rush it.

                      Fullmer, Davis, and Edsall are all interesting possibilities.
                      I ask, because there are a few really solid hiring firms out there for collegiate head coaching, and if they didn't go in one of those directions...they are fools.

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                      • FirstTimer
                        Freeman Error

                        • Feb 2009
                        • 18729

                        Originally posted by Larry
                        I ask, because there are a few really solid hiring firms out there for collegiate head coaching, and if they didn't go in one of those directions...they are fools.
                        The one he is reportedly using is one based out of Atlanta. Parker Executive Search

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                        • Woy
                          RIP West
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 16372

                          Jay, I'm still holding true to that bet. ;)



                          ^ Shouts to MvP for the sick sig. GFX TEAM BACK

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                          • FirstTimer
                            Freeman Error

                            • Feb 2009
                            • 18729

                            Kelly is supposed to interview for the job and numerous reports have said Jim Harbaugh has either already interviewed or will be interviewing for the job as well. I would expect Edsall to get a call soon as well.

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                            • FedEx227
                              Delivers
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 10454

                              Man I forgot about Harbaugh. I think he's getting it.
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                              • FirstTimer
                                Freeman Error

                                • Feb 2009
                                • 18729

                                Edsall and Harbaugh scare me a bit as hires. It would basically be hiring another Ty Willingham. Hot coach with an average or subpar record. Although I think both of these guys are much more passionate about coaching than Ty the lack of a real proven track record for both gives me some worries.

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