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  • padman59
    Slayer of Demons
    • Mar 2009
    • 5709

    #16
    Originally posted by BORN4CORN
    Yes, I did read/hear somewhere he said something like that... basically the system will work itself out. But WTF does that mean? Was he really thinking it'd work out in their favor? The only thing in that interview on Fox he said was "Well I voted us number 2".. IDK

    Chris Petersen of Boise said something similar after his win against Nevada.. It just baffles me that these guys (A) Believe the system will favor them, or (B) Are just happy making it to a BCS bowl


    EDIT: Coach Patterson on ESPN is so delusional talking about climbing the mountain & being ranked higher in the preseason next year so they might get a shot. Are you kidding? Boise has gone undefeated one season & had one close loss to TCU last year & start at an average ranking of 13-15. There is a reason why these non-BCS schools are ranked low enough at the beginning so they cant crack the top 2 if the go undefeated.
    I agree. They should have at least kept their mouths shut about it until after the bowl game. I'm shocked they'd say something remotely endorsing the current system given their teams position in the polls.

    But matching up TCU and Boise may be a good move for the BCS. The conspiracy theorist in me says it's a no win situation for the winner of the game. If the victor decides to attempt to gain momentum going into next season, the excuse will always be along the lines of "well, XXXX didn't beat a BCS quality team in their bowl. Their opponent was overrated to begin with."

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    • FirstTimer
      Freeman Error

      • Feb 2009
      • 18729

      #17
      Originally posted by KleShreen
      What a fucking cop-out by the BCS.
      Not really the BCS' fault. Blame the reps from the Fiesta Bowl who made the pick.
      Last edited by FirstTimer; 12-06-2009, 10:32 PM.

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      • FirstTimer
        Freeman Error

        • Feb 2009
        • 18729

        #18
        Originally posted by JTW
        You guys do realize the BCS Committee has NOTHING to do with the bowl match-ups, sans the title game. It's all up to the individual bowls. You can't blame the BCS for TCU v. Boise State. That one is on the Fiesta Bowl.
        Thank you.

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        • padman59
          Slayer of Demons
          • Mar 2009
          • 5709

          #19
          Originally posted by JTW
          You guys do realize the BCS Committee has NOTHING to do with the bowl match-ups, sans the title game. It's all up to the individual bowls. You can't blame the BCS for TCU v. Boise State. That one is on the Fiesta Bowl.
          You don't think BCS reps are working behind the scenes to influence who picks whom? A matchup that results in either TCU/Boise beating another BCS conference team doesn't look good especially if the committee is concerned about Congress' threat to investigate the BCS. Either enough people were influenced to keep TCU/Boise in the same bowl or the BCS reps lucked out today. My skepticism toward the system makes me think the former.

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          • padman59
            Slayer of Demons
            • Mar 2009
            • 5709

            #20
            Interesting piece of information: the computers wanted a Cincinnati/Alabama matchup for the championship.

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            • FirstTimer
              Freeman Error

              • Feb 2009
              • 18729

              #21
              Originally posted by padman59
              You don't think BCS reps are working behind the scenes to influence who picks whom? A matchup that results in either TCU/Boise beating another BCS conference team doesn't look good especially if the committee is concerned about Congress' threat to investigate the BCS. Either enough people were influenced to keep TCU/Boise in the same bowl or the BCS reps lucked out today. My skepticism toward the system makes me think the former.
              I really doubt it honestly.

              The Sugar had to replace Alabama...took Florida.

              The Fiesta had to replace Texas. Took the strong regional pick in TCU. Replacing one Texas team with another.

              The Rose was set.

              The Orange had to take Tech.

              Then the Orange Bowl picks and they take Iowa. Not a bad pick as Iowa has the best traveling fan base of any of the teams left that are eligible.

              The Fiesta picks next and had to choose from Cinci, Boise St, Va Tech, or BYU. Them taking Boise St back isn't that much of a shock seeing as they had them when they upset Oklahoma so there is some history there. Frankly, they didn't have much to choose from really. You could make a case for Cinci but even still they have some history with Boise so it makes it a bit more of a compelling pick plus you have the two Cinderellas playing each other.

              The Sugar Bowl pretty much got stuck with Cincinnati at that point because of the autobids.

              And honestly if you wanted to be conspiratorial about it you could say the Fiesta, by picking Boise, therefore guaranteed that there would be at least two undefeated teams at the end of the season thus throwing the BCS/Playoff debate into even higher gear. They could have done it by choosing Cinci though too. Either way the theory works.
              Last edited by FirstTimer; 12-06-2009, 10:10 PM.

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              • NAHSTE
                Probably owns the site
                • Feb 2009
                • 22233

                #22
                Penn St where you at?

                Tigers > Lions

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                • FirstTimer
                  Freeman Error

                  • Feb 2009
                  • 18729

                  #23
                  Originally posted by JTW
                  I would agree with that. Look at it from the Fiesta Bowl perspective. They could've picked Cincy, but Cincy fans didn't travel well to the Orange Bowl last year, so do you really expect them to travel well to Glendale? In the end, it came down to Boise State and Virginia Tech (Penn State locked out with the choice of Iowa, and really, the Mormons had no shot) and the Fiesta would've been crucified for taking a thee loss ACC team over an undefeated team.
                  Good call on the Penn St being locked out. Overlooked that.

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                  • EmpireWF
                    Giants in the Super Bowl
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 24082

                    #24
                    This sucks. Over three weeks waiting for these crappy games.


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                    • Hasselbeck
                      Jus' bout dat action boss
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 6175

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Archer
                      Iowa/GT

                      I guess i'm catching up on some sleep that day
                      Neither team should be anywhere near a BCS game, but GT wins a shit-tacular conference.. and Iowa plays in the most overrated conference in the country so here we are.
                      Originally posted by ram29jackson
                      I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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                      • FirstTimer
                        Freeman Error

                        • Feb 2009
                        • 18729

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Hasselbeck
                        Neither team should be anywhere near a BCS game, but GT wins a shit-tacular conference.. and Iowa plays in the most overrated conference in the country so here we are.
                        Agreed with the Iowa thing but Iowa has a fan base that travels REALLY well. There's not much to do in Iowa this time of year....or ever..so you have a bunch of people looking for an excuse to get to a warm climate. Plus Iowa has a terrific med school and tons of rich alums who are doctors so they can travel and spend a lot of money doing it.

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                        • Archer
                          Go the fuck outside
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 15303

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Firsttimer
                          Agreed with the Iowa thing but Iowa has a fan base that travels REALLY well. There's not much to do in Iowa this time of year....or ever..so you have a bunch of people looking for an excuse to get to a warm climate. Plus Iowa has a terrific med school and tons of rich alums who are doctors so they can travel and spend a lot of money doing it.
                          It was either Iowa or PSU getting that spot . Either way was going to leave us with a boring game . The ACC lost alot of credibility last week also

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                          • BUCK3YE5
                            CP 2K12
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1410

                            #28
                            Guess who was right all along? PSU did NOT make the BCS, as I guaranteed. Now they are gonna get their quantam singularity kicked by LSU.

                            I think all the bcs games are good. If Bama/Texas is sloppy and Cincy beats UF in a good fashion, Cincy should get an AP National Championship

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                            • BUCK3YE5
                              CP 2K12
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1410

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Woy
                              I guess the Orange Bowl didn't need the money they were reportedly losing.

                              Oh well, we have a better shot at winning the Capital One Bowl anyways.
                              wrong you have a much better shot at beating GT than you do LSU

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                              • BUCK3YE5
                                CP 2K12
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 1410

                                #30
                                Originally posted by nash13heat
                                Oregon will murder Ohio State
                                lol nash that shit is sig worthy

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