Heisman Presentation

[ram29jackson]

theres nothing wrong with Fowler.

its going to be awkward. these are kids not use to having cameras right in their face and needing something to say on extremely short notice.

the whole thing is thrown together on the fly. Its not going to be tight.

[Woy]

Gerhart/Suh should have won IMO.

Alabama D-Line: 98 Tkl, 23.5 TFL, 9.5 Sk, 20 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk
Florida D-Line: 112 Tkl, 33 TFL, 14 Sk, 48 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 0 Blk
Texas D-Line: 116 Tkl, 25.5 TFL, 15.5 Sk, 10 QBH, 7 PBU, 0 Int, 2 FF, 0 Blk
Ndamukong Suh: 82 Tkl, 23 TFL, 12 Sk, 24 QBH, 10 PBU, 1 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk

[Mogriffjr]

Gerhart/Suh should have won IMO.

Alabama D-Line: 98 Tkl, 23.5 TFL, 9.5 Sk, 20 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk
Florida D-Line: 112 Tkl, 33 TFL, 14 Sk, 48 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 0 Blk
Texas D-Line: 116 Tkl, 25.5 TFL, 15.5 Sk, 10 QBH, 7 PBU, 0 Int, 2 FF, 0 Blk
Ndamukong Suh: 82 Tkl, 23 TFL, 12 Sk, 24 QBH, 10 PBU, 1 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk

lol so your saying Suh by himself is better than those 3 to 4 man lines? I know whatcha saying Woy, I'm bustin ya chops

[Tengo Juego]

McCoy finishing in third over Suh just pisses me off. I have no problem with Gerhart or Ingram before Suh, but McCoy? Really?

[ram29jackson]

McCoy finishing in third over Suh just pisses me off. I have no problem with Gerhart or Ingram before Suh, but McCoy? Really?

Especially when Suh helped nullify McCoy in the last game. Suh was the better player in a defensive battle

[St. Francisco]

its going to be awkward. these are kids not use to having cameras right in their face and needing something to say on extremely short notice.

Tebow, McCoy, Gerhart, Suh, and Ingram aren't used to being in front of the cameras? You say the stupidest shit.

McCoy finishing in third over Suh just pisses me off. I have no problem with Gerhart or Ingram before Suh, but McCoy? Really?

A perfect example of why I say the BCS and polls (as much as people bitch about them) are a direct reflection of this country. The only thing that matters is the last game.

Let say something: I'm not saying that Mark Ingram didn't deserve to win the Heisman. What I am saying is that Ingram won the Heisman because of his performance as compared to McCoy's in their final games. Suh took votes from McCoy that I think would've made him the winner with a stronger performance against Nebraska.

I GUARANTEE that if you swap McCoy's performances in the Nebraska and Texas A&M game, he walks away with that trophy. But nobody can remember that shit. They only remember the last fucking thing they see...and that pisses me off to no end.

/rant

[Archer]

Tebow, McCoy, Gerhart, Suh, and Ingram aren't used to being in front of the cameras? You say the stupidest shit.




A perfect example of why I say the BCS and polls (as much as people bitch about them) are a direct reflection of this country. The only thing that matters is the last game.

Let say something: I'm not saying that Mark Ingram didn't deserve to win the Heisman. What I am saying is that Ingram won the Heisman because of his performance as compared to McCoy's in their final games. Suh took votes from McCoy that I think would've made him the winner with a stronger performance against Nebraska.

I GUARANTEE that if you swap McCoy's performances in the Nebraska and Texas A&M game, he walks away with that trophy. But nobody can remember that shit. They only remember the last fucking thing they see...and that pisses me off to no end.

/rant

A perfect example of why I say the BCS and polls (as much as people bitch about them) are a direct reflection of this country. The only thing that matters is the last game.

Always been the biggest problem imo . It should be about who you lost to and in what manner

Let say something: I'm not saying that Mark Ingram didn't deserve to win the Heisman. What I am saying is that Ingram won the Heisman because of his performance as compared to McCoy's in their final games.

I agree . It was McCoys heisman to lose going into the last game though

Suh took votes from McCoy that I think would've made him the winner with a stronger performance against Nebraska.

As he should have. Suh was a deserving candidate ... you could argue that McCoy took votes from Suh if you want . Nobody will ever appreciate D as much as they do O . It's annoying like that

I GUARANTEE that if you swap McCoy's performances in the Nebraska and Texas A&M game

I agree again and I'm sure most people do . McCoy was the front runner coming into the Nebraska game but I would argue that his stats v Texas A&M have to be taken with a pinch of salt considering the ability of the A&M D (as all games v awful Ds should . Same for Ingram)

They only remember the last fucking thing they see...and that pisses me off to no end.

I agree but it's always been that way . McCoy has a chance to win the more important thing anyways

[Archer]

What kind of RB is Ingram, I've never seen him? What style is he comparable to in the NFL?

He's a bit of a mix . Has good speed and burst but can run guys over . It's hard to really call him a "power back or speed back" to be honest ....

[Tengo Juego]

Tebow, McCoy, Gerhart, Suh, and Ingram aren't used to being in front of the cameras? You say the stupidest shit.




A perfect example of why I say the BCS and polls (as much as people bitch about them) are a direct reflection of this country. The only thing that matters is the last game.

Let say something: I'm not saying that Mark Ingram didn't deserve to win the Heisman. What I am saying is that Ingram won the Heisman because of his performance as compared to McCoy's in their final games. Suh took votes from McCoy that I think would've made him the winner with a stronger performance against Nebraska.

I GUARANTEE that if you swap McCoy's performances in the Nebraska and Texas A&M game, he walks away with that trophy. But nobody can remember that shit. They only remember the last fucking thing they see...and that pisses me off to no end.

/rant

Texas A&M? You serious? Texas A&M? What should I take from a performance beating a .500 team? Why would you swap that game's performance? Did Texas A&M have their own version of Ndamukong Suh?

Should that final game be erased when considering your Heisman vote? Should every voter discredit how poorly McCoy played? And how great Suh played? And the stage of the game, and what was at stake? McCoy didn't show up, Suh did. And Texas' kicker.

I wasn't just pulling for Suh to win JUST after the Big 12 game. Have you watched Nebraska? Have you seen our abysmal offense on display? The inconsistent run game and non existent pass game? But week after week, we still had a fighting chance, because of Ndamukong Suh. His numbers are already mind blowing for his position, but look at the rest of the D-line, Jared Crick is the biggest beneficiary of Suh. How many times do you think Suh attracted a double team, and guess who would be left unblocked? Thats right.

When considering your Heisman vote, I think your performance in the big game says a lot about that player and his season. When it matters most, when the most is on the line. When your season is on the line.

My rant doesn't end. I can do it 24/7

[Archer]

Texas A&M? You serious? Texas A&M? What should I take from a performance beating a .500 team? Why would you swap that game's performance? Did Texas A&M have their own version of Ndamukong Suh?

Should that final game be erased when considering your Heisman vote? Should every voter discredit how poorly McCoy played? And how great Suh played? And the stage of the game, and what was at stake? McCoy didn't show up, Suh did. And Texas' kicker.

I wasn't just pulling for Suh to win JUST after the Big 12 game. Have you watched Nebraska? Have you seen our abysmal offense on display? The inconsistent run game and non existent pass game? But week after week, we still had a fighting chance, because of Ndamukong Suh. His numbers are already mind blowing for his position, but look at the rest of the D-line, Jared Crick is the biggest beneficiary of Suh. How many times do you think Suh attracted a double team, and guess who would be left unblocked? Thats right.

When considering your Heisman vote, I think your performance in the big game says a lot about that player and his season. When it matters most, when the most is on the line. When your season is on the line.

You could also note that Texas AM's D is ranked in the 100s . I'm pretty sure New freaking Mexico has a better total D than them BUT it was still a big game (rivalry) and McCoy did perform well so it has to be taken into account .

[ram29jackson]

[QUOTE=St. Francisco;954789]Tebow, McCoy, Gerhart, Suh, and Ingram aren't used to being in front of the cameras? You say the stupidest shit.









No, I say highly intelligent things that you cant comprehend.
being on the field and spewing cliches after a game are incredibly different from being in a concentrated environment while you are trying to sound thoughtful and literate with a camera and mic- in your face.

[Woy]

No, I say highly intelligent things that you cant comprehend.
being on the field and spewing cliches after a game are incredibly different from being in a concentrated environment while you are trying to sound thoughtful and literate with a camera and mic- in your face.

Please just shut the fuck up.

[ram29jackson]

Please just shut the fuck up.

wow that was so well thought and intellectually stimulating.
than again, your barely a year removed from your prom, so I don't expect you to understand a decent amount of logic.

MERRY christmas woy, may God bless you to live a long, happy, healthy, life!

[Nukleopatra]

Merry Christmas, ram29.

Go suck on a candy cane until it's sharp enough to jam into your fucking throat.

[ram29jackson]

Merry Christmas, ram29.

Go suck on a candy cane until it's sharp enough to jam into your fucking throat.

I wasnt being sarcastic to woy though. I ment it. its called a back handed complement.

besides, that whole candy cane thing seems kind of hard to do. and time consuming.