Don't Blame the Bears Offensive Line!!! Its not their fault!

[Goober]

Whoa whoa whoa... I support Cutler. I can also admit he's having a bad season. Hard to understand? Kind of like how I was upset with Benson his entire time in Chicago, and more recently with his latest comments about the Bears org... but guess what, I still hope he does well - he was a Bear once and I hoped he succeeded. I'm not gonna totally turn my back because of stuff that happend between him and the team which will never be fully reported - how could I form such a harsh opinion without all the facts? Yeah, you should get what I'm hinting at.

And when you guys create and support a thread about how the Bears o line isn't that bad, I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

It's not the offensive lines fault that that the Bears are 5-8. Bear fans need to stop making scapegoats and put the blame on Cutler.

It's amazing how a team can go from competing for a playoff spot one year, and then trade for a "franchise QB' and immediately fall to the bottom of the NFL. It's pretty obvious who should be blamed.

[Senser81]

You mean to tell me "Goblin Slayer has had sex with a woman" isnt more false? Come on.. even through your blind rage you still have to have an moderate sense of reality!

He never really said he has had sex with a woman...all he said was basically that he wanted to spend the weekend with you. That means his Gaydar is working properly, nothing more.

[Kuzzy Powers]

He never really said he has had sex with a woman...all he said was basically that he wanted to spend the weekend with you. That means his Gaydar is working properly, nothing more.

He doesnt need to make the statement, im making it, and god help me is it ever false.

I suppose "Senser isnt the oldest, most bitter man surfing internet forums" could be considered more false, but its close.

[Nukleopatra]

Ignoring was a poor word to use, more like, interact with - I think it's obvious where that would go. You're the kind of guy who can call a dead man "one of the most overrated pieces of shit in NFL history" - I despise you. The amount of respect you get at this site is ridiculous, and mostly stems from other posters like myself, who choose to do the same thing and just try to forget you exist.

:uglyhammer:

[Nukleopatra]

All Chicago really needs to do, to be relevant again, is replace the following.

Lovie Smith
Orlando Pace
Jay Cutler
Gaines Adams
Ron Turner

Mike Martz has been rumored as OC, but Martz completely denied that. Personally, I think Martz would be good for Jay Cutler. Martz has the attitude to deal with the punk. You'd either get a major personality clash, or a much improved quarterback. But I also lol @ the rumor, because since when has Chicago done something to actually improve their team? Bringing in Mike Martz would be.......smart. That's not Chicago's thing.

[Blade]

Ummm.....Cutler would be in the same boat as Rodgers if he held on to the ball, and you would be the highest in sacks allowed. The reason you are in the middle of the pack for sacks allowed, is because Cutler throws the ball down the field and takes his chances.

Rodgers did the same last year, and threw ridiculous picks that made fans grimace. This year he's holding onto the ball, so now they are one of the highest in sacks allowed. If Cutler would do that, you guys would be in 2nd and 18 or something on every stinkin drive.

[Goober]

Ummm.....Cutler would be in the same boat as Rodgers if he held on to the ball, and you would be the highest in sacks allowed. The reason you are in the middle of the pack for sacks allowed, is because Cutler throws the ball down the field and takes his chances.

Rodgers did the same last year, and threw ridiculous picks that made fans grimace. This year he's holding onto the ball, so now they are one of the highest in sacks allowed. If Cutler would do that, you guys would be in 2nd and 18 or something on every stinkin drive.

The amazing thing is the Packers can actually win with this formula! Jay Cutler can't.

[Goober]

Lol, I love that pic, one of my best. Thank you.

And I don't post at VSN as often as some other sites, so sorry if I'm missing something, but I always feel like a little hostility amongst fans is a good thing, little rivalry never hurts. I wasn't ready for someone basically celebrating the death of Walter Payton though - to me that crosses the line, but for you guys it seems like the norm and obviously the hostility I'm sensing is a lot worse than I would have imagined. So, sorry for even getting involved without knowing the situation. This argument is clearly for a group of guys that have some history, and I'd like to not be a part of it.

You fuckers are a couple of posts away from death threats, lol.

:learnvsn:

[Nukleopatra]

Lol, I love that pic, one of my best. Thank you.

And I don't post at VSN as often as some other sites, so sorry if I'm missing something, but I always feel like a little hostility amongst fans is a good thing, little rivalry never hurts. I wasn't ready for someone basically celebrating the death of Walter Payton though - to me that crosses the line, but for you guys it seems like the norm and obviously the hostility I'm sensing is a lot worse than I would have imagined. So, sorry for even getting involved without knowing the situation. This argument is clearly for a group of guys that have some history, and I'd like to not be a part of it.

You fuckers are a couple of posts away from death threats, lol.

You got me all wrong, my friend. I'm not a bad guy at all.

I would never celebrate the passing of Waltor Payton. Until I saw your sig, I had completely forgotten about Waltor Payton. I really don't care enough of the man, to celebrate anything he's done.

I hope that clears up the misunderstanding.

Edit: Am I even spelling his first name right?

[Nukleopatra]

And yet Rodgers still only managed to throw 13 INTs all of last year. The O-line is bad yes, but most of Cutler's picks result from him taking chances that nobody in their right mind should take. I would much rather my qb take a sack than force a pass into triple coverage for a INT.

Good post.

Didn't Pittsburgh win a superbowl with one of the worst lines in the NFL?

Let's blame the line - It can't be Jay Cutler.

[Kuzzy Powers]

The amazing thing is the Packers can actually win with this formula! Jay Cutler can't.

The Packers have a top ranked defense, two pro bowl wide receivers, and flat out better play calling then our team. And you know what they did to fix their problems from earlier this year? They fixed the mother fucking offensive line. A terrible offensive line hinders you whether your team is good or bad, theres no question it has hindered the Bears tremendously this year. Would it fix all the problems? Definitely not, but it would definitely be a big help if the line would hold up, especially for the running game.

Derrrr...

[Nukleopatra]

Bottom line is Josh McDaniels made the right call and me and silkamonico were right all along.

Dude, you were kissing Cutler's ass from day one.

I was right all along.

[FedEx227]

What? The running game is obviously the thing that's winning the Bears football games!

Forte ran for 90 yards and two touchdowns against the Browns. Against the Rams he had 91 yards with another touchdown. Back in week four he had 121 yards and another touchdown against the Lions.

What an amazing correlation! When the Bears establish the run, they win games!

Ron Turner must think it's dumb luck because he continues to let Jay Cutler lose the game for the Bears every week.

There's another pretty large correlation there... think you're missing it.

Browns
Rams
Lions

Hmmm.... oh yeah they are a combined 5-34 on the year.

[FedEx227]

I'll tell you the moment I lost all respect for Bears fans - when I mocked the signing of Orlando Pace, after years of this fat piece of shit being done, and I saw two fans tell me what a great signing it was going to be, and all Pace needed was a fresh start. That level of homerism, with any team, was too much to handle. I can almost understand the whole Jay Cutler thing, since there was some hope he'd be successful, but when you defend Orlando Pace to a Rams fan, you don't deserve any respect.

So, from that moment on, I will forever trash the Chicago Bears and it's fan base.

Oh don't worry they are all a bunch of retards. I will watch them from time to time but since about the mid-90s I haven't actively rooted for the Bears.

Dumb ass fans and a stupid organization that panders to dumb fans. With that being said, some of the crap being spewed on why they suck is just flat out retarded.

Yes, Ron Turner is awful. Yes, Cutler isn't doing great, but people are all about extremes on this site. Can't it just be that the team is not very talented, has poor play calling, a bad offensive line and an injured, past their prime defense?

Why does it always have to be "THIS GUY IS THE REASON!" HE'S WHY THEY LOSE!!!!!! They lose because they are a bad. they have a putrid offensive line, the worst WR corp in football, a mediocre offensive coordinator, they run a Cover 2 scheme without pass rush (aka worthless) and Cutler has made some bad decisions throughout the year.

It's really not that hard.

[Nukleopatra]

Oh don't worry they are all a bunch of retards. I will watch them from time to time but since about the mid-90s I haven't actively rooted for the Bears.

Dumb ass fans and a stupid organization that panders to dumb fans. With that being said, some of the crap being spewed on why they suck is just flat out retarded.

Yes, Ron Turner is awful. Yes, Cutler isn't doing great, but people are all about extremes on this site. Can't it just be that the team is not very talented, has poor play calling, a bad offensive line and an injured, past their prime defense?

Why does it always have to be "THIS GUY IS THE REASON!" HE'S WHY THEY LOSE!!!!!! They lose because they are a bad. they have a putrid offensive line, the worst WR corp in football, a mediocre offensive coordinator, they run a Cover 2 scheme without pass rush (aka worthless) and Cutler has made some bad decisions throughout the year.

It's really not that hard.

Agreed.

But I still say by bringing in Mike Martz, Jay Cutler's accuracy, decision making, and attitude all change for the better. And if it doesn't, Mike Martz has proven throughout the years, he doesn't need a strong arm, pro bowl QB, to succeed. You bring in Mike Martz, and no way in hell is your offense ranked 24th in the NFL.