Did Manning re-open the MVP discussion today?

[The Buddha]

I'm convinced you didn't see the game if you can't see how we were in control . I understand ... you want Favre to win so bad .

Pretty sure it was 15-10 also . Unless my memory is completely failing me

You are correct....It was 15-10...Jets got to 18 off the Painter fumble that was recovered in the endzone.

[MrBill]

I'm convinced you didn't see the game if you can't see how we were in control . I understand ... you want Favre to win so bad .

Pretty sure it was 15-10 also . Unless my memory is completely failing me

I watched a lot of the game flipping back and forth between the local feed and the RedZone channel and it looked to me like the Colts were missing out on lots of scoring opportunities and were up by the whopping score of 9-3 after having an XP blocked. The Jets came out and opened up the 2nd half with a 105 yard return for a TD and a 10-9 lead. That's really in control...lol

Not sure if your memory is failing or not, the score when he was pulled that I had came from the USA Today recap.

Manning quickly put the Colts back on top 18-15 by leading an 81-yard touchdown drive. But he played no more despite the boos and a few chants of "We want Peyton" from the stands. Wide receiver Reggie Wayne and tight end Dallas Clark joined Manning on the sideline.

[Deviant]

Wow.

MVP discussion isn't re-opened. Trust me, if Peyton played out, they would have won. Wayne was shitting on Revis. Manning missed him a few times, but when they needed Manning to drive down the field he did. Brad Smith returns a kickoff to start the second half and Manning comes right on the field and kills their momentum with a TD drive. 15-10. Jets weren't doing shit outside of that special teams play. They pull Manning out of the game and then it goes to shit.

Peyton only played 60% of the game, not 75%. He wasn't pulled in the fourth, he was pulled in the middle of the third. That offense was as flat as Miranda Cosgrove when Painter came in the game. Painter lost the Colts that game.

[Sharkweather]

Wayne was shitting on Revis. Manning missed him a few times

Missing him a few times or not, 3 for 33 is not "shitting on".

[MrBill]

Missing him a few times or not, 3 for 33 is not "shitting on".

I don't think that even qualifies as thinking about shitting on. The fact that Manning missed wide open guys Wayne and Clark a few times and had 0 TD passes is what I would call a pedestrian day for an MVP candidate.

[Deviant]

I watched a lot of the game flipping back and forth between the local feed and the RedZone channel and it looked to me like the Colts were missing out on lots of scoring opportunities and were up by the whopping score of 9-3 after having an XP blocked. The Jets came out and opened up the 2nd half with a 105 yard return for a TD and a 10-9 lead. That's really in control...lol

Not sure if your memory is failing or not, the score when he was pulled that I had came from the USA Today recap.

Manning quickly put the Colts back on top 18-15 by leading an 81-yard touchdown drive. But he played no more despite the boos and a few chants of "We want Peyton" from the stands. Wide receiver Reggie Wayne and tight end Dallas Clark joined Manning on the sideline.

100% sure you didn't watch this game. How the fuck could the Colts go from down 9-10 to up 18-15 all in half of the third quarter? This would mean that the Colts would have had to of scored on two possessions (nine points) and the Jets got a field goal and safety.

This also defies another logical thing... something called THE FINAL SCORE. How could the Colts be up 18-15 when they only scored 15 points?

Here's what really happened:

[Deviant]

Missing him a few times or not, 3 for 33 is not "shitting on".

That's statistics. I'm not talking about how many times Manning hit him. If you watched the game, Wayne was working Revis all game. Revis wasn't breaking up any of those passes.

[Bear Pand]

Look Mr. Bill it's obvious you didn't watch the game and it's also obvious that this thread is not so subtle campaigning for Favre's MVP chances.

Did Manning miss a few passes to open wideouts? Yes. But he's been doing that the entire season. If that's enough to reopen the MVP race, then the race hasn't been shut the entire year. He didn't play a full game and still put up 192 yards on a team that on average only gives up 166 a game. He didn't throw any TDs, but was solid in every other category.

We can sit here and say things like:

His team also lost in a game they were outplayed in on both sides of the ball. He gets all of the glory when they win, he gets some of the blame when they lose.

but it's pure fantasy, and didn't actually happen. The game was never really in the JETS' favor until Painter came in and immediately gave up a TD.

As for is the MVP race still open yes it is. Favre still could win it, but it'll only happen if he stops his December fade and he might need to get the #1 NFC seed too.

[MrBill]

100% sure you didn't watch this game. How the fuck could the Colts go from down 9-10 to up 18-15 all in half of the third quarter? This would mean that the Colts would have had to of scored on two possessions (nine points) and the Jets got a field goal and safety.

This also defies another logical thing... something called THE FINAL SCORE. How could the Colts be up 18-15 when they only scored 15 points?

Here's what really happened:

I told you that I watched the game back and forth between local feed and the RedZone channel and posted the link that showed what appears to be the incorrect score when Manning left the game. What I did see when I was watching the game was Manning missing wide open receivers and having 0 TD passes against a .500 team while trailing in the 3rd quarter until he put them up briefly before leaving the game. Did I miss anything else?

[MrBill]

Look Mr. Bill it's obvious you didn't watch the game and it's also obvious that this thread is not so subtle campaigning for Favre's MVP chances.

Again, there has been no mention of Favre being back in the race by me in this thread. He would have to have a monster game against the Bears tomorrow night to even think about being back in the race. I guarantee you though that if Brees had came out today and tossed 3 TD's or more in a winning effort, he would be the front runner over Manning.

[Bear Pand]

Again, there has been no mention of Favre being back in the race by me in this thread. He would have to have a monster game against the Bears tomorrow night to even think about being back in the race. I guarantee you though that if Brees had came out today and tossed 3 TD's or more in a winning effort, he would be the front runner over Manning.

Maybe, but he didn't and you still made the thread...

[Archer]

I told you that I watched the game back and forth between local feed and the RedZone channel and posted the link that showed what appears to be the incorrect score when Manning left the game. What I did see when I was watching the game was Manning missing wide open receivers and having 0 TD passes against a .500 team while trailing in the 3rd quarter until he put them up briefly before leaving the game. Did I miss anything else?

You keep leaning on the record while failing to note that the Jets have the best pass D in the NFL

[Deviant]

You keep leaning on the record while failing to note that the Jets have the best pass D in the NFL

This.

Their mediocre record is more of a reflection on Mark Sanchez than their defense.

[steeljake]

of course manning is the mvp. just look at what the colts did with out him.

[bringbackjimmy]

Neg Bang coming....
Tony Romo
323/516(62.6%)
4172 yrds
24 TD's
8 ints
8.1 Y/A
278 ypg
97 QBR
December
G Att Comp Pct Yds Avg Lng TD Int 1st 1st% 20+ Sck SckY Rate
4 157 107 68.2 1,239 7.9 69 7 1 63 40.1 14 7 42 104.0


He has played his best football in the month in December and has the Cowboys playing for the east title(potentially a 1st rd bye) next week against the Eagles.

Favre
312/460 (67.8%)
3,565 yards
27 TD
7 INT
7.8 Y/A
254.6 YPG
104.1 rating
31 sacks
G Att Comp Pct Yds Avg Lng TD Int 1st 1st% 20+ Sck SckY Rate
3 102 64 62.7 691 6.8 63 3 4 37 36.3 7 9 62 76.1

Brees
331/477 (69.8%)
4,130 yards
33 TD
11 INT
8.7 Y/A
295.0 YPG
109.4 rating
19 sacks
G Att Comp Pct Yds Avg Lng TD Int 1st 1st% 20+ Sck SckY Rate
4 171 127 74.3 1,271 7.4 53 7 2 68 39.8 11 6 47 103.7

Manning
365/532 (68.6%)
4,213 yards
33 TD
15 INT
7.9 Y/A
300.9 YPG
101.2 rating
10 sacks
G Att Comp Pct Yds Avg Lng TD Int 1st 1st% 20+ Sck SckY Rate
4 130 81 62.3 990 7.6 65 9 4 59 45.4 18 0 0 96.0


Right Now I would have it Manning, Romo, Johnson, Brees....if i don't count that fact the titans are missing the Playoffs i would have it Manning, Johnson, Romo, Brees...