Mai 2008 NFL Draft Re-Do

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  • USCChifan
    All-Star
    • Oct 2009
    • 1172

    #16
    Originally posted by bcransom
    Phillips went 19th tbh.

    ...You think Stewart is better than Forte? Why?
    Stewart has more speed, and is a more powerful runner. Though his foot injuries are a concern IMO

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    • Shayn•Da•Pain
      Laughs Unlimited
      • Nov 2008
      • 5204

      #17
      In regards to the top half of your draft I think there could be quite a few changes made. I don't want to get into the entire draft, because you change one or two picks and the entire order shifts out of wack. So I'll keep it simple

      1-4 perfect, love the selections.
      5 - With Jamal Charles productivity I'd think the Chiefs would rather have Ryan Clady right here. He's definitely worth the 5th overall.
      6 - IMO the best available player is DeSean Jackson. Imagine this spark plug on the J-E-T-S right now! Dayum.
      7 - I might be lazy here, but you're right Sedrick Ellis is a fine pick here and I wouldn't change anything in NO right now.
      8 - Call me crazy but MJD and the Jags I think need a backup for MJD who seemed to miss some key moments due to bumps and bruises this season. MJD and Rice have proven they have the mental disposition to share the work load and stay productive in a multi-back system.
      9 - Mayo is better than Rivers IMO, not a huge lift, but the Bungels are slightly better.
      10 - Patriots still have to get younger all over their defense, the player with the highest potential has to be Rodger-Cromartie IMO.
      11- Bills will love Branden Flowers who is good at just about everything and a solid tackler on a team that covets solid tacklers.
      12 - Sam Baker is the best OT available with Clady off the board.
      13 - Completely agree with John Carlson at this point. Couldn't hurt Delhomme that's for sure.
      14 - I'm going with the Jay Cutler to Eddie Royal for shits and grins. Forte would be nice but Cutler needed a true target this season and RBs are a dime a dozen lately.
      15 - Agreed with Brandon Albert, with Clady that o-line with Jamal Charles looks bad ass.
      16 - If I have Warner I'm drafting the best lineman available, that is Jeff Otah.
      17 - Matt Forte has to be better than Kevin Smith.
      18 - Jonathan Stewart looks like a Ravens RB to me, runs hard, and has proven productive in a multi-back system. He's got the head to share work.

      This is about all the work I want to do right now...but this is how I'd mix it up personally.
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      • longhornfan
        Carpe Diem
        • Mar 2009
        • 732

        #18
        Aqib in Dallas would have been a nightmare... You guys though Keith Davis and his shootouts were bad.

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        • j.hen
          Self Care
          • Oct 2008
          • 10058

          #19
          So glad the Falcons made the right choice the first time around. Dont think I could put up with Flacco's bum ass under center.

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          • Shayn•Da•Pain
            Laughs Unlimited
            • Nov 2008
            • 5204

            #20
            Originally posted by J.Hen
            So glad the Falcons made the right choice the first time around. Dont think I could put up with Flacco's bum ass under center.
            I think what everybody is failing to realize is that this re-do has the Rams taking Matt Ryan, so I think you mean to say you're "so glad the Rams made the wrong choice the first time around, and left Matt Ryan for the Falcons."
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            • NAHSTE
              Probably owns the site
              • Feb 2009
              • 22233

              #21
              So glad the Rams made the wrong choice the first time around, and left Matt Ryan for the Falcons.

              Though if Ryan would've been gone, we'd have taken Glenn Dorsey. Flacco sucks compared to Matty and is too slow to run our system (not that Ryan is a scrambler by any means but he can actually execute sprint outs and half rolls) It's also interesting that you speculate he'd take the Falcons "farther" and cite his amazing football IQ. Pretty sure Ryan is no slouch in that regard.
              Last edited by NAHSTE; 01-23-2010, 03:23 AM.

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              • j.hen
                Self Care
                • Oct 2008
                • 10058

                #22
                Originally posted by NAHSTE13
                So glad the Rams made the wrong choice the first time around, and left Matt Ryan for the Falcons.

                Though if Ryan would've been gone, we'd have taken Glenn Dorsey. Flacco sucks compared to Matty and is too slow to run our system (not that Ryan is a scrambler by any means but he can actually execute sprint outs and half rolls) It's also interesting that you speculate he'd take the Falcons "farther" and cite his amazing football IQ. Pretty sure Ryan is no slouch in that regard.
                Yeah if Ryan wasnt there the Falcons were very high on Glenn Dorsey and many assumed thats where they would go. They wouldnt have reached for Flacco that early seeing as how they traded back into the 1st later.

                Dorsey would have torn shit up for Mike Smith in his system. He'd definitely be a monster if we would of had to pick him instead.

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                • Bmore
                  The True Free-Man
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 6256

                  #23
                  Originally posted by J.Hen
                  Yeah if Ryan wasnt there the Falcons were very high on Glenn Dorsey and many assumed thats where they would go. They wouldnt have reached for Flacco that early seeing as how they traded back into the 1st later.

                  Dorsey would have torn shit up for Mike Smith in his system. He'd definitely be a monster if we would of had to pick him instead.
                  I think your missing the point. (maybe not, but for shits and giggles...)

                  The Re-Do is a hind sight draft. We know how good these players are now, so we rank them based on now instead of what was presumed prior to the 2008 draft.

                  Obviously the Falcons wouldn't draft Glenn Dorsey seeing as he shit his pants his first 2 seasons with the chiefs. While players like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Chad Henne, Chris Johnson, etc... have proven they were worth taking higher/more.


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                  • Sharkweather
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 8906

                    #24
                    But he is talking about the real draft. If the Rams were smart and had taken Ryan.

                    Hypothetical stuff, you know.

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                    • Bmore
                      The True Free-Man
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 6256

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Hova
                      But he is talking about the real draft. If the Rams were smart and had taken Ryan.

                      Hypothetical stuff, you know.
                      Yea exactly. How would the Rams know Matt Ryan is a better pick then what they made, if we aren't looking in Hind sight?


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                      • Sharkweather
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 8906

                        #26
                        Because we took him at 3.

                        Is it that much of a reach to think the Rams could have taken him 2nd.

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                        • Tengo Juego
                          Posts a lot
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 4289

                          #27
                          Originally posted by bcransom
                          Phillips went 19th tbh.

                          ...You think Stewart is better than Forte? Why?
                          I think Stewart is much more raw than Forte. I dont know if either is clearly better. And I think Stewart is the better "re-do" over Mendenhall than Forte. Stewart is more of the Pittsburgh-smashmouth runner than Forte.

                          I think as long as DeAngelo Williams is in Carolina, and healthy, we will never see Jon Stewart's full potential reached.

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                          • NAHSTE
                            Probably owns the site
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 22233

                            #28
                            I'd take J-Stew over Forte too. Forte is solid, but strikes me as more of a "grinder" who will never average above 4.2 ypc, and will most years average around 3.8-4.0.

                            Stewart has more big play potential and is more dynamic as a FACTORBACK (no Hoge)

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                            • bcransom
                              Kurtzpalm
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 749

                              #29
                              Originally posted by NAHSTE13
                              I'd take J-Stew over Forte too. Forte is solid, but strikes me as more of a "grinder" who will never average above 4.2 ypc, and will most years average around 3.8-4.0.

                              Stewart has more big play potential and is more dynamic as a FACTORBACK (no Hoge)
                              He's running behind like the worst run blocking OL I have ever seen in my life...

                              Stewart does a lot of running behind Gross and Otah. That's the good life for a running back. Not taking away from Stewart, but don't use the YPC argument to put him over Forte when their OL's are so different. Forte seems to me to have better vision, and also the injuries would be a concern for the GM's in this.

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                              • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                                Highwayman
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 15428

                                #30
                                The Jaguars wouldn't have traded up to 8 if not for Derrick Harvey...so, they'd picking at their original pick (26).

                                Ryan Clady would go in the Top 3...he was the best player to come out of this draft...premier LT prospect.

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