Cutler keeping OC's out of Chicago?

[Senser81]

I was listening to a typically horrible Chicago sportstalk radio show yesterday (Boers & Bernstein), and I cannot understand the bias against Mike Martz becoming the Bears OC.

In typical Boers & Bernstein "logic", they spent the first part of the show bemoaning the lack of quality candidates the Bears have brought in to interview for the OC job, they spend the second part of the show saying that Jerry Angelo and Lovie Smith should be fired immediately instead of giving them 1 more 'lame duck' season, and then they are aghast with the possibility of Mike Martz getting the OC job....

"Sure, he's a good OC...but everywhere he's been he wants to become the head coach." HUH? Weren't you guys just talking about how you want Lovie Smith fired and that the Bears haven't brought in any strong OC candidates?

So my question to Bears fans is...why not Mike Martz?

[FedEx227]

Yeah, Davis was such a hard working guy that he was literally thrown off the team in the middle of a game that season.

Um, are you talking about the Singletary thing?

Singletary blew up because Vernon had a personal foul penalty. It had nothing to do with work ethic/shape. Vernon Davis is regarded as one of the biggest workout warriors in the league.

[steeljake]

So my question to Bears fans is...why not Mike Martz?

because teh calling card of the bears is defense and to hire an actual good OC would just be... well, insanity.

lol @ cutler being allowed to sit in on interviews for the OC. the bears are fast becoming the lions/browns/raiders...

[FedEx227]

I was listening to a typically horrible Chicago sportstalk radio show yesterday (Boers & Bernstein), and I cannot understand the bias against Mike Martz becoming the Bears OC.

In typical Boers & Bernstein "logic", they spent the first part of the show bemoaning the lack of quality candidates the Bears have brought in to interview for the OC job, they spend the second part of the show saying that Jerry Angelo and Lovie Smith should be fired immediately instead of giving them 1 more 'lame duck' season, and then they are aghast with the possibility of Mike Martz getting the OC job....

"Sure, he's a good OC...but everywhere he's been he wants to become the head coach." HUH? Weren't you guys just talking about how you want Lovie Smith fired and that the Bears haven't brought in any strong OC candidates?

So my question to Bears fans is...why not Mike Martz?

My main gripe is just I don't think we'll be able to get a good vertical passing game out of our WR or our offensive line. That's my main gripe against him. Otherwise, I wouldn't care... at this point he's certainly better than any other idiots they've interviewed.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Um, are you talking about the Singletary thing?

Singletary blew up because Vernon had a personal foul penalty. It had nothing to do with work ethic.

Right. That was the year Martz was there. Davis was a malcontent who had issues with effort.

[FedEx227]

Effort =/= Out of Shape

[steeljake]

Right. That was the year Martz was there. Davis was a malcontent who had issues with effort.

i think you are putting too much into singletary sending a player to the locker room for mental errors. i wont argue that davis is the next kellen winslow or anything, but the kid has talent. granted he didnt work hard in an offense that should have suited him, but he did have quite a productive year this past season. i think maybe you are takjing his failure during the time martz was there as a slight against martz, and you shouldnt. martz is an offensive genuis, but that team and that head coach were not a fit for his mad stylin's.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Effort =/= Out of Shape

Ok, let's argue semantics instead of the main point that Davis was a knucklehead.

I concede, he's a greek god. Who cares, he lacked effort and also had mental issues.

[Archer]

Smh at all the Mike Martz talk... the guy who slammed Cutler during the season. You ladies talk so much about how much of a bitch Cutler is and now you're gonna sit here and act like you honestly think this is a good idea. C'mon.

Obviously the Bears want Cutler to get along with his coaches, that's their mentality for better or worse. Which is also why he's been sitting in on interviews. I'm not saying I agree with it, and it's only gonna be a one year relationship most likely anyways.

Yeah... god forbid they hire a good O/C like Martz. Cutler deserves his ego slammed .

The idea of letting a QB who has been at your team for one year sit in and help decide who gets the job is hilarious

[Nukleopatra]

Was my post too long to read? Did it not make sense to you?

Has Cutler not shown he can and will get upset about a coach he doesn't like being hired?

Keep Cutler happy... unfortunately it's something that needs to be done.


Yeah, I'm sure that'd help things out.

Lol.

Things like this makes me appreciate players like Kurt Warner even more.

My God.

[Archer]

Was my post too long to read? Did it not make sense to you?

Has Cutler not shown he can and will get upset about a coach he doesn't like being hired?

Keep Cutler happy... unfortunately it's something that needs to be done.



Yeah, I'm sure that'd help things out.

I understood the post and it sucked all the same. How well has stroking Cutler's ego worked so far? To the promise land of 7-9. How well did it work in Denver before McDaniels? Did he even make the playoffs there aswell? Remind me. So you are stroking the ego of a guy who has never played in a post-season game in his life? I understand Cutler may throw a pissy fit about the next coach, it just goes to show what kind of football player Jay Cutler is imo.

[JMeist]

Cutler for sure holds the card. The Bears gave up a lot of their future for him. No shit they are gonna support him regardless of whether he is a douche or not (he's a douche). Jay is definitely the "leader" of the Bears because of this.

So let me ask this, does anyone think he can actually be the team leader and have his team look up to him? I really don't think so, he seems like too much of a whiny bitch who puts blames on others? But hey, I could be wrong--I don't follow the Bears religiously, just watch them lose.

[Senser81]

Smh at all the Mike Martz talk... the guy who slammed Cutler during the season.

LOL at the Boers/Bernstein "logic". Aside from a few games, Cutler was downright horrible last year. Martz had a job as a studio analyst for the NFL Network, and he gave his opinion on Cutler's performance.

Would you actually have MORE respect for Martz's offensive acumen if he had said Cutler was doing a fantastic job? To me, that would show that Martz has no idea what he is talking about (like Ron Turner).

And what if studio analyst Bill Cowher had been asked about Cutler, and said something truthful/negative about Cutler? Would you say "No way can the Bears hire Bill Cowher..."

[ralaw]

Cutler for sure holds the card. The Bears gave up a lot of their future for him. No shit they are gonna support him regardless of whether he is a douche or not (he's a douche). Jay is definitely the "leader" of the Bears because of this..

Yep, whether people like it or not the team gave up a lot to get Cutler and regardless of how bad he played last year he is seen as the franchise QB that the team practically has never had. So, him being involved with the hiring of an OC is of no surprise. I’m not sure if it’s a good thing to have a douche like Cutler interviewing his future “boss,” but whoever they bring in will have to be on the same page with Cutler if the team wants him and thus the team to play better.

[Nukleopatra]

Well, I can't say I'm not pleased to hear that Chicago's #1 priority isn't winning games, but to keep an average NFL quarterback happy. So, here's to hoping Griswald's theory is correct.