Citizens of Baltimore, cross streets with caution.

[Chadman]

Ravens need a number two. Not a slot receiver. Claytons inconsistent ass is better suited as the teams third receiver.

[Gonzo]

There's a difference. Whether you agree or not, Vick did those things and knew what he was doing and denied, Stallworth didn't.

Stallworth was stupid and made the mistake of drinking and driving. And he was responsible for what he did. But, he wasn't a bitch about it(remember, Vick denied what he did at first) and didn't deny that he was drinking and driving, didn't run from the scene, and honestly, the family getting compensation is probably better than having him locked up for a lengthy period. As crude or heartless as that may seem to anyone.

IIRC, Stallworth had his license revoked for life. And will be on probation for a long fucking time, in addition to house arrest. And, FWIW, was out of work for a whole year. A job that pays like no other.

I'm not justifying what he did. I guess I just dont care for cheap jokes.

I honestly didn't follow his story that well, but wasn't the guy he killed walking in the middle of the highway?

Again, not justifying, just hammering out some differences here.

[BazookaJoe5]

Ravens need a number two. Not a slot receiver. Claytons inconsistent ass is better suited as the teams third receiver.

Clayton's best suited as out of the NFL. :tapedshut:

As I said, ideally we sign/trade for a legitimate #1, Derrick Mason doesn't retire and comes back as the #2, and then we have Kelley Washington and Stallworth as the 3/4, interchangeable. Draft someone like Gresham or Benn with our first pick, and our passing offense isn't so much shit anymore...it could be pretty damn good, actually.

Unfortunately, I doubt things unfold that way.

[James2Stapleton]

lol at the title

[Tengo Juego]

Vick did his time.. Stallworth paid his way out of trouble.. That's the difference.

Losing your license for life, probation for 8 years, and 2 year house arrest is probably a hell of a lot worse than sitting in Prison for a year.

And, again, FWIW Stallworth did do time. 24 days I believe.

[Bmore]

He won't have a press conference till after OTA's .... so...

[kbpsu]

If you think his first stunt was good, just wait til Donte runs over them DBs.

[RainboUnicorn]

There's a difference. Whether you agree or not, Vick did those things and knew what he was doing and denied, Stallworth didn't.

Stallworth was stupid and made the mistake of drinking and driving. And he was responsible for what he did. But, he wasn't a bitch about it(remember, Vick denied what he did at first) and didn't deny that he was drinking and driving, didn't run from the scene, and honestly, the family getting compensation is probably better than having him locked up for a lengthy period. As crude or heartless as that may seem to anyone.

IIRC, Stallworth had his license revoked for life. And will be on probation for a long fucking time, in addition to house arrest. And, FWIW, was out of work for a whole year. A job that pays like no other.

I'm not justifying what he did. I guess I just dont care for cheap jokes.

Vick did his time.. Stallworth paid his way out of trouble.. That's the difference.

You can't compare the two. If you do then you really don't know what happened. Vick was knowingly operating a dogfighting ring with his own money and executing dogs with his own hands.

The guy who Stallworth hit ran in front of the car trying to catch a bus. He could have killed him if he was sober as well. Stallworth handled the situation very well IMO.

[Rayman]

Stallworth didn't go to jail for killing the guy. He went to jail for operating a vehicle while intoxicated.

If he were punished for the manslaughter, he'd still be there and would be for a while.

What he did is still incredibly stupid any way you slice it.

[NAHSTE]

I'm sure there's quite a few people that are sitting in jail on vehicular manslaughter charges that "could have done the same thing sober". The only difference is they didn't have the hush money to get off. Are you trying to say to me that Stallworth didn't know he had drank before he got behind the wheel?

He had marijuana in his system too. I've driven high/drunk a couple dozen times, so I'm not in a position to judge, but if I hit and killed a man I'd certainly have nobody to blame but myself.

[leaffan]

I like Stallworth as a signing. He's a a guy who doesn't try to go around you, he goes right through you.

I really have nothing to add to this but I lol'd @ this statement.

[Bmore]

Yea but when Stallworth got behind the wheel he didn't think to himself "I'm going to kill something today." There was not intent.

While Vick knew he was going to be killing things and he still did it and then denied it when he was caught.

Vick had intent to take lives, Stallworth didn't.

[Rayman]

But the only reason he wasn't tried for manslaughter is because he paid off the family members of the guy he hit.

Hadn't it pretty much been determined that Stallworth would have mowed this guy down whether he was drunk or not?

Wasn't the guy wandering aimlessly (and drunk himself) across a busy highway?

I don't want it to sound like I'm feeling pity for Stallworth, because I'm not. Driving drunk is one of the dumbest things a person can do.

He went to jail for that part and has to live with himself killing a guy. I think that's punishment enough.

[Leftwich]

I think all of that may be true, but I know that at least in CA when you are found to be under the influence of any drugs or alcohol, even some marijuana that may have been in your system from weeks before, and you are involved in an accident in which there is injury you are immediately found at fault for the accident.

DAAAAMN that sucks.

[Tengo Juego]

I'm sure there's quite a few people that are sitting in jail on vehicular manslaughter charges that "could have done the same thing sober". The only difference is they didn't have the hush money to get off. Are you trying to say to me that Stallworth didn't know he had drank before he got behind the wheel?

Manslaughter doesn't happen the same way each time. Though, I'm sure you know that.

Again, he offered to pay those people for what he did. And I think the family forgave him, or something like that. It's not like the guy "cheated" the system. The system is pretty much what allowed it.