Adam Schefter believes Sam Bradford is the Number 1 pick

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  • Nukleopatra
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    • Nov 2008
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    #31
    Originally posted by dave
    Maybe, maybe not ... but Bradford is going to cost the Rams a $40-million (or higher) signing bonus.

    In my opinion, if you're gonna spend that kind of money on the cap, spend it on a more sure thing.
    Who you think the Rams should take, is fine. But the reason you used, is complete stupidity. Marc Bulger is not a 'decent QB.' He's awful, he's beyond awful. He's JaMarcus Russell awful, maybe even worse. I don't know wtf you people have been watching, to make you think otherwise, but it hasn't been the Rams. If you think Suh is the correct choice, I can go along with that - but if you honestly think Bulger should be behind center in 2010, then you're a fucking moron. I'd rather have Knull or whoever the fuck we have now.

    Marc Bulger is quite possibly the worst starting QB in the NFL.

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    • dave
      Go the fuck outside
      • Oct 2008
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      #32
      Originally posted by Nukleopatra
      Who you think the Rams should take, is fine. But the reason you used, is complete stupidity. Marc Bulger is not a 'decent QB.' He's awful, he's beyond awful. He's JaMarcus Russell awful, maybe even worse. I don't know wtf you people have been watching, to make you think otherwise, but it hasn't been the Rams. If you think Suh is the correct choice, I can go along with that - but if you honestly think Bulger should be behind center in 2010, then you're a fucking moron. I'd rather have Knull or whoever the fuck we have now.

      Marc Bulger is quite possibly the worst starting QB in the NFL.
      Bulger is not Russell awful. Damn, a simple check of his http://www.nfl.com/players/marcbulge...s?id=BUL162264 profile could tell you that.
      I didn't say Bulger was a franchise QB, but he's only 33 going into next season and an acceptable holdover QB while the Rams rebuild the basic positions.

      Describing him as Jamarcus Russell is idiotic.

      Bulger is not the worst starting QB in the NFL by a longshot. He's hampered by injuries, a poor supporting cast and crappy coaching.

      When it comes to NFL opinions Nuke, you should stick to foxy boxing or something else.
      Last edited by dave; 02-27-2010, 02:22 AM.
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      • Nukleopatra
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        #33
        Originally posted by dave
        Bulger is not the worst starting QB in the NFL by a longshot. He's hampered by injuries, a poor supporting cast and crappy coaching.
        He's 5-31 as a starter in the last three seasons.

        He hasn't completed 60% of his passes since 2006.

        He's worse than JaMarcus Russell.

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        • dave
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          • Oct 2008
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          #34
          Originally posted by Nukleopatra
          He's 5-31 as a starter in the last three seasons.

          He hasn't completed 60% of his passes since 2006.

          He's worse than JaMarcus Russell.
          In the past three years, his worst pass completion % is 56.7.

          Russell could only dream of a % like that.

          Please stop.
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          • Obst
            RIP West
            • Oct 2008
            • 4182

            #35
            27 Touchdowns, 34 Interceptions in the past three years.
            Only played 1 full season.
            Plus like Nuk said, he has won the Rams 5 games in these past 3 years. So if the Rams want to completely tank again, and lose more fans, then they have to get a Quarterback who can win some games.

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            • dave
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              • Oct 2008
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              #36
              Originally posted by the_obst
              27 Touchdowns, 34 Interceptions in the past three years.
              Only played 1 full season.
              Plus like Nuk said, he has won the Rams 5 games in these past 3 years. So if the Rams want to completely tank again, and lose more fans, then they have to get a Quarterback who can win some games.
              I am not calling Bulger a franchise QB, but to say he's completely responsible for the Rams' woes the past three seasons is ridiculous.
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              • Leftwich
                Bring on the Season

                • Oct 2008
                • 13700

                #37
                Well this certainly fucks everything up.

                Originally posted by Tailback U
                It won't say shit, because dying is for pussies.

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                • Hasselbeck
                  Jus' bout dat action boss
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 6175

                  #38
                  I think if Bradford can recover from his shoulder injuries a la Drew Brees, he's a bonafide Pro Bowl type talent in 4-5 years.

                  If not, well the Rams will be bad for a long time to come.

                  That said - they have to go QB in that spot. Taking Suh or McCoy is "safe" but $70M defensive tackles usually don't carry a team to the playoffs. Quarterbacks on the other hand, do.
                  Originally posted by ram29jackson
                  I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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                  • Hasselbeck
                    Jus' bout dat action boss
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 6175

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Nukleopatra
                    Who you think the Rams should take, is fine. But the reason you used, is complete stupidity. Marc Bulger is not a 'decent QB.' He's awful, he's beyond awful. He's JaMarcus Russell awful, maybe even worse. I don't know wtf you people have been watching, to make you think otherwise, but it hasn't been the Rams. If you think Suh is the correct choice, I can go along with that - but if you honestly think Bulger should be behind center in 2010, then you're a fucking moron. I'd rather have Knull or whoever the fuck we have now.

                    Marc Bulger is quite possibly the worst starting QB in the NFL.
                    Bulger's best days are well behind him, but if you put him on a good team and asked him to MANAGE the game.. he would be fine.

                    I think if he went to the Vikings, Cardinals, Broncos, etc.. he'd be fine. Not a pro-bowler, but not as bad as you paint him to be.

                    Let's face it Nuk. The Rams are miserable. Even Peyton Manning would struggle to go 8-8 there. The Rams should honestly trade Steven Jackson and Atogwe and blow the whole thing up. They won 1 game with a Top 5 safety and RB last season.. it's not like they'll get much worse.
                    Originally posted by ram29jackson
                    I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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                    • Nukleopatra
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Hasselbeck
                      Bulger's best days are well behind him, but if you put him on a good team and asked him to MANAGE the game.. he would be fine.

                      I think if he went to the Vikings, Cardinals, Broncos, etc.. he'd be fine. Not a pro-bowler, but not as bad as you paint him to be.

                      Let's face it Nuk. The Rams are miserable. Even Peyton Manning would struggle to go 8-8 there. The Rams should honestly trade Steven Jackson and Atogwe and blow the whole thing up. They won 1 game with a Top 5 safety and RB last season.. it's not like they'll get much worse.
                      Agreed.

                      But if the Rams draft Sam Bradford, and he starts from day one - how can he not at least match Bulger's win total in the last two seasons? People thought Atlanta was the worst team of all-time when Matt Ryan was named starter, it worked out pretty well. Oh yeah, we passed on Ryan, too. Who did we draft again?

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                      • bcransom
                        Kurtzpalm
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 749

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Nukleopatra
                        Agreed.

                        But if the Rams draft Sam Bradford, and he starts from day one - how can he not at least match Bulger's win total in the last two seasons? People thought Atlanta was the worst team of all-time when Matt Ryan was named starter, it worked out pretty well. Oh yeah, we passed on Ryan, too. Who did we draft again?
                        I think Bradford would definitely scratch out a win or two if he started from Day 1, but the risk you're running putting the #1 overall pick (With recent injury issues) behind such a miserably bad OL doesn't make sense when the team really has no shot at the playoffs.

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                        • stevsta
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                          • Oct 2008
                          • 4670

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Nukleopatra
                          Agreed.

                          But if the Rams draft Sam Bradford, and he starts from day one - how can he not at least match Bulger's win total in the last two seasons? People thought Atlanta was the worst team of all-time when Matt Ryan was named starter, it worked out pretty well. Oh yeah, we passed on Ryan, too. Who did we draft again?
                          How many times did Ryan get sacked, in fact how many times did the starter before him get sacked and what receiver ended up getting majority catches that year. Finally after that you can discuss how the defense acted the next season just B/c once Ryan came in they became "good" doesn't mean it was all on him he had pieces there before he came in.

                          We are dealing with a Houston situation if we draft a young qb becoming the next David Carr or hell a mirror image of the once okay starter Bulger. This is a trap draft where the need isn’t necessarily what’s going to give us the Ws.
                          RIP

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                          • Nukleopatra
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                            #43
                            There's plenty of o-line in this draft, to where we could pick up a quality guy in round two. If Sam Bradford doesn't go down with that injury, we aren't even discussing this pick. His shoulder is fine, if we pass on him, it'll be the typical dumbass Rams who haven't drafted a franchise QB since the fucking 60s. Deep down, I hope they do fuck it up, and I hope Seattle grabs Bradford.

                            lol @ passing on a franchise QB, because our line stinks. Didn't we draft a sure thing at that spot last season?

                            You don't pass on a franchise QB for any reason, period.
                            Last edited by Nukleopatra; 02-27-2010, 07:43 PM.

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                            • bcransom
                              Kurtzpalm
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 749

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Nukleopatra
                              There's plenty of o-line in this draft, to where we could pick up a quality guy in round two. If Sam Bradford doesn't go down with that injury, we aren't even discussing this pick. His shoulder is fine, if we pass on him, it'll be the typical dumbass Rams who haven't drafted a franchise QB since the fucking 60s. Deep down, I hope they do fuck it up, and I hope Seattle grabs Bradford.

                              lol @ passing on a franchise QB, because our line stinks. Didn't we draft a sure thing at that spot last season?

                              You don't pass on a franchise QB for any reason, period.
                              I'm not saying pass on the franchise QB, I'm saying don't start this particular one from the get go.

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                              • Nukleopatra
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by bcransom
                                I'm not saying pass on the franchise QB, I'm saying don't start this particular one from the get go.
                                I can agree with that. But the whole David Carr comparison is retarded - David Carr ended up being David Carr, because he didn't have it mentally, he never did. If you draft a guy who doesn't have it mentally, he's going to bust, no matter how good your line is. That's part of the evaluation process. If St. Louis drafts Sam Bradford, the first thing I want to hear, is that he plans on winning the starting job from day one. If he ends up being as weak minded as the Rams fanbase, then hell, Seattle can have his fucking ass.

                                You take the franchise QB, and if he's willing to work for the starting job, you let him.

                                David Carr has absolutely nothing to do with Sam Bradford or the direction of his NFL career. You take the franchise QB, and you build around him.

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