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  • corbin
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1963

    In a dream world

    Me and Archer were discussing a trade that would work for both teams. Anquan Boldin for Robert Mathis, Both fill HUGE needs for eachothers teams. Me being a Cardinals fan would be more than happy with this trade. Mathis would add to our stale d-line, we need some one who is young and can flat out get at the QB. Dockett and Mathis would be a big time d-line that would be scary for any opposing QB. This would also reduce the amount of big plays our secondary puts up, as we would finally get constant pressure.

    From the colts perspective, you would have an elite WR to come in and take the #2 WR spot and put up big numbers. No doubt in my mind, that would be the scariest WR duo in the league. I think Boldin in Indy's offense could challenge for the reception leader next year. You would have Gonzo(who has progressed to a top slot receiver) stay in his natural position. Sessions and Freeney can both get to the QB. Mathis is a smaller guy and that may be one of the main reasons he can't stop the run at high percentage. I don't know the draft picks that would have to be included but this trade makes perfect sense to me.

    This is not being discussed publicly by any team and I doubt it would ever happen. Just thought I would throw some thing out that we could talk about.
    Last edited by corbin; 02-06-2009, 08:11 PM.
  • Archer
    Go the fuck outside
    • Oct 2008
    • 15303

    #2
    Originally posted by corbin23
    Me and Archer were discussing a trade that would work for both teams. Anquan Boldin for Robert Mathis, Both fill HUGE needs for eachothers teams. Me being a Cardinals fan would be more than happy with this trade. Mathis would add to our stale d-line, we need some one who is young and can flat out get at the QB. Dockett and Mathis would be a big time d-line that would be scary for any opposing QB. This would also reduce the amount of big plays our secondary puts up, as we would finally get constant pressure. From the colts perspective, you would have an elite WR to come in and take the #2 WR spot and put up big numbers. No doubt in my mind, that would be the scariest WR duo in the league. I think Boldin in Indy's offense could challenge for the reception leader next year. You would have Gonzo(who has progressed to a top slot receiver) stay in his natural position. Sessions and Freeney can both get to the QB. Mathis is a smaller guy and that may be one of the main reasons he can't stop the run at high percentage. I don't know the draft picks that would have to be included but this trade makes perfect sense to me. This is not being discussed publicly by any team and I doubt it would ever happen. Just thought I would throw some thing out that we could talk about.
    I think it would work in a dream world cause idk about cap issues . I do love mathis though , i just think hes replaceble and Boldin would make our pass o the best in the leauge once again

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    • Archer
      Go the fuck outside
      • Oct 2008
      • 15303

      #3
      Colts dont have much cap at all

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      • corbin
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 1963

        #4
        I did some research Archer, Mathis will receive $18.5 million in the first three years of his contract. Boldin makes around $12 million for the next 2 seasons combined, I think that's a salary hit for the Cards and not the Colts.

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        • Archer
          Go the fuck outside
          • Oct 2008
          • 15303

          #5
          I dont think theyd do it anyways , cause wr isint a top need for the colts. It just be kinda cool id think . Id love to see us have an unstoppble offence again

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          • celtsxpatsxsox
            Redsox
            • Oct 2008
            • 3310

            #6
            It is very rare in the NFL where you see a straight up trade between two star players. I think the last one was Portis for Bailey trade. I might be wrong but I just cant think of any other. Most trades happen by trading draft picks.

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            • Archer
              Go the fuck outside
              • Oct 2008
              • 15303

              #7
              Yeah thats why we said "dream"

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              • celtsxpatsxsox
                Redsox
                • Oct 2008
                • 3310

                #8
                oh I know I was pretty much stating that just to state it.

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                • j.hen
                  Self Care
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 10058

                  #9
                  Originally posted by corbin23
                  Me and Archer were discussing a trade that would work for both teams. Anquan Boldin for Robert Mathis, Both fill HUGE needs for eachothers teams. Me being a Cardinals fan would be more than happy with this trade. Mathis would add to our stale d-line, we need some one who is young and can flat out get at the QB. Dockett and Mathis would be a big time d-line that would be scary for any opposing QB. This would also reduce the amount of big plays our secondary puts up, as we would finally get constant pressure. From the colts perspective, you would have an elite WR to come in and take the #2 WR spot and put up big numbers. No doubt in my mind, that would be the scariest WR duo in the league. I think Boldin in Indy's offense could challenge for the reception leader next year. You would have Gonzo(who has progressed to a top slot receiver) stay in his natural position. Sessions and Freeney can both get to the QB. Mathis is a smaller guy and that may be one of the main reasons he can't stop the run at high percentage. I don't know the draft picks that would have to be included but this trade makes perfect sense to me. This is not being discussed publicly by any team and I doubt it would ever happen. Just thought I would throw some thing out that we could talk about.

                  In a dream world you'd learn to use the Enter key a couple times so I would actually consider reading all of that.

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                  • corbin
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1963

                    #10
                    homo

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                    • Kuzzy Powers
                      Beautiful Like Moses
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 12542

                      #11
                      In a dream world the Colts would improve their Defense, not downgrade it. Both great talents, not a good trade, IMO.

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                      • ThunderHorse
                        Grind.
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2702

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                        In a dream world the Colts would improve their Defense, not downgrade it. Both great talents, not a good trade, IMO.
                        yea,

                        the last thing we need to do is lose a key defensive part of our unit,

                        even if we get Boldin, we don't really need him. Boldin is an incredible guy, but he isn't what we need.

                        I would much rather see Indianapolis draft a slot receiver in the draft who is good at doing things after the catch and just move Gonzales to the outside, rather then giving up one of the best, if not THE best defensive players on our team, don't get me wrong, but I think Mathis is a HELL of a player, and I think he is just as good as Freeney, the only reason people don't look at him the same way is because Freeney's name is more recognizable because of how long its been out.

                        so no, not a good trade in my opinion when we could fix what little cracks we have in our receiving core with a pick as late as the 3rd of 4th. rather then giving up one of our best players.

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                        • Archer
                          Go the fuck outside
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 15303

                          #13
                          Lol of course its not a trade WE NEED. but id love to see Boldin in our O lol . Then again id love to see 22 pro bowlers on our team

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                          • Archer
                            Go the fuck outside
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 15303

                            #14
                            In honesty , all we need is a dt in fa or draft then look at another decent slot wr and wed be set. But id just love to see us with an unstoppble offence again lol.

                            However , id probably not do this trade when i sit and re-think about it.

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                            • ThunderHorse
                              Grind.
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2702

                              #15
                              Originally posted by archer2k407
                              In honesty , all we need is a dt in fa or draft then look at another decent slot wr and wed be set. But id just love to see us with an unstoppble offence again lol.

                              However , id probably not do this trade when i sit and re-think about it.
                              thats what I'm like,

                              if we get a DT, and a good slot receiver like we've had in the past, we would be a force.

                              what I'd really like to see is Indianapolis grab a special teams guy like Derrick Williams if he falls far enough in the draft, I wouldn't mind putting him at Slot receiver, and even if he doesn't work out there, I'd love to see him used in the special teams aspect, because we have NO ONE who is feared special teams wise.

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