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  • Argath
    $2 whore
    • Apr 2009
    • 9241

    Redskins clean house

    Guard Randy Thomas, receiver Antwaan Randle El and kick returner Rock Cartwright are among 10 players cut by the Washington Redskins on the eve of free agency.


    ASHBURN, Va. -- The Washington Redskins unleashed a 30-something purge Thursday night, making the team significantly younger by cutting 10 players and clearing salary cap space for another aggressive run at free agency.

    In the first major moves under the new brain trust of coach Mike Shanahan and general manager Bruce Allen, the Redskins said goodbye to seven players 30 or older: receiver Antwaan Randle El, defensive tackle Cornelius Griffin, guard Randy Thomas, kick returner Rock Cartwright, cornerback Fred Smoot, running back Ladell Betts and backup quarterback Todd Collins.

    "Obviously, it's a day of change for the Redskins," Allen said.

    The Redskins started rebuilding the roster with the re-signing of center Casey Rabach, a source told ESPN.com's John Clayton.

    Rabach agreed to a three-year contract worth about $12.3 million, according to the source. His contract voided after the season and he was scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent.

    The next big moves were expected to be put in motion at the midnight start of free agency, when the Redskins were again expected to be aggressive on the open market. Big-spending owner Dan Snyder has yielded roster control to Shanahan, but the coach and Allen have many needs to fill as they take over a 4-12 team and look ahead to a season with no salary cap.

    "We're going to be active on the phones tonight," said Allen, who added he was under no spending restrictions from Snyder.

    The Redskins tendered several players, making them restricted free agents. Quarterback Jason Campbell and cornerback Carlos Rogers both were given first-round tenders, limiting their chances of being courted by other teams. The Redskins have the right to match any offer they receive and can demand a first-round draft pick as compensation.

    Campbell and Rogers are victims of the lack of a new collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and players' union. If the salary cap were still in place, both would become unrestricted free agents. Rogers, in particular, has voiced his disappointment over his tender and would prefer to play elsewhere after getting benched for parts of last season.

    Allen shrugged off Rogers' concerns, saying he sees both Campbell and Rogers as part of the team next season.

    "We're going to see players across the league that have concerns and issues with the current system," Allen said. "I look at that as just the nature of the world we're living in right now, and I don't consider that a problem."

    Linebacker Rocky McIntosh, safety Reed Doughty, defensive tackle Kedric Golston, tackle Stephon Heyer and linebacker Chris Wilson were given second-round tenders. Defensive tackle Anthony Montgomery has a fifth-round tender, center Will Montgomery got a seventh-round tender, and defensive tackle Lorenzo Alexander was tendered but would require no compensation to sign.

    The Redskins had the oldest roster in the NFL at the start of last season, with an average age of 27.60. A series of questionable personnel decisions led to an injury-prone roster with little depth, leading to the franchise's worst season since 1994.

    Thursday's overhaul, therefore, was long overdue. It also came on the day that 32-year-old left tackle Chris Samuels announced his long-expected retirement because of a neck injury.

    "Some of these players have been very good Redskins," Allen said. "They're good men, good citizens, but our plan was for 2010 and beyond."

    Three younger backups were cut: running backs Marcus Mason and Eddie Williams and defensive lineman J.D. Skolnitsky.

    None of the cuts are big surprises. Thomas has been a solid lineman and a good locker room presence, but he had major injuries in two of the last three seasons. Randle El never played up to the value of the big-money free agent deal he signed in 2006. Cartwright was a team captain, but his role on special teams was reduced last season.

    Smoot's role also diminished during the 2009 season, Betts finished the year on injured reserve, and Griffin is on the downside of his career and not an ideal fit for the team's new 3-4 defense.

    One player spared was running back Clinton Portis, who was injured much of last year and no longer looks like the back who broke rushing records earlier in his career. Portis might have been saved by the fact that most of his 2010 contract is guaranteed.

    "Right now he's our starting running back," Allen said, "and that's what our plans are."


    I'm going to miss Collins, Betts, and Griffin


    I guess they forgot that Albert Haynesworth leaves the field once every 3 plays. I don't think he played a full set of downs this year.


    Or the fact that portis is hurt every fucking year.


    Or the fact that Jason Campbell fucking sucks and they need a veteran to teach a rookie how to come along.
  • celtsxpatsxsox
    Redsox
    • Oct 2008
    • 3310

    #2
    Less than two hours until the start of free agency, rumors are flying that the Washington Redskins will soon be signing defensive end Julius Peppers.


    looks like they could be getting Peppers

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    • Argath
      $2 whore
      • Apr 2009
      • 9241

      #3
      Why would we? We already have Andre Carter, Brian Orakpo, and Phillip Daniels.


      Talk about a mess at DE

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      • Rayman
        Spic 'n Spanish
        • Feb 2009
        • 4626

        #4
        Originally posted by Argath the Faggot
        Why would we? We already have Andre Carter, Brian Orakpo, and Phillip Daniels.


        Talk about a mess at DE
        I hear about a 3-4 switch coming.

        Have fun winning the offseason championship again. What is it, 10 years running now?



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        • Marley
          Anyone but Erickson
          • Dec 2009
          • 474

          #5
          Originally posted by celtsxpatsxsox
          http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-to-full-boil/

          looks like they could be getting Peppers
          LOLSnyder

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          • Prodigal Son
            The Greatest
            • Feb 2009
            • 2338

            #6
            Originally posted by RayManHCP42
            I hear about a 3-4 switch coming.

            Have fun winning the offseason championship again. What is it, 10 years running now?
            I don't think a Cowboy fan should be talking to a shit about a 10 year old streak.

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            • Rayman
              Spic 'n Spanish
              • Feb 2009
              • 4626

              #7
              Originally posted by Prodigal Son
              I don't think a Cowboy fan should be talking to a shit about a 10 year old streak.
              Yeah, because the Cowboys have spent ridiculous amounts of money on free agents in that span.



              Last edited by Rayman; 03-05-2010, 07:35 AM.



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              • Argath
                $2 whore
                • Apr 2009
                • 9241

                #8
                Originally posted by RayManHCP42
                I hear about a 3-4 switch coming.

                Have fun winning the offseason championship again. What is it, 10 years running now?
                atleast we can win a championship in something.


                go raise your big screen cunt

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                • MoonBBad
                  Think Blue!
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 236

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RayManHCP42
                  Yeah, because the Cowboys have spent ridiculous amounts of money on free agents in that span.



                  Does your ass still hurt from the raping that the Vikings gave you in the playoffs? Way to show up Cowboys... I'd rather miss the playoffs then look like the bunch of pussies that you all looked like that day.
                  Golden Sombraro Season 2: Dodgers 10-8
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                  • Archer
                    Go the fuck outside
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 15303

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MoonBBad
                    Does your ass still hurt from the raping that the Vikings gave you in the playoffs? Way to show up Cowboys... I'd rather miss the playoffs then look like the bunch of pussies that you all looked like that day.
                    You'd rather miss the playoffs then win a game and have a chance at moving on to the con champ? Solid logic

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                    • Rayman
                      Spic 'n Spanish
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 4626

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MoonBBad
                      Does your ass still hurt from the raping that the Vikings gave you in the playoffs? Way to show up Cowboys... I'd rather miss the playoffs then look like the bunch of pussies that you all looked like that day.
                      I can at least say my team is on the right track. More than can be said here.



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                      • Senser81
                        VSN Poster of the Year
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 12804

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Argath the Faggot
                        Or the fact that portis is hurt every fucking year.
                        I think the acquisition of Portis wasn't all that bad. He was a very good player for a number of years, and, in spite of what you posted, he was very durable.

                        I think the main reason the Redskins have been less than stellar the past decade is the play of the QB has been bad. Mark Brunell was a nice QB in his prime, but he should have been a stop-gap with Washington. He started way too many games, really. Jason Campbell is bad. If he goes to another team, he'll continue to be bad. The best QB play they had was when Todd Collins started the 2nd half of one season. They made the playoffs, then Collins was immediately returned to the bench in favor of Jason Campbell. They might not have had the most explosive offense, but I think with Portis, Santana Moss, and Cooley they did have weapons.

                        Another factor is that I think some of the Redskins players were overrated. Lavar Arrington was decent, but he was routinely outplayed by Derek Smith. Fred Smoot was ok, but no shutdown CB. Guys like Randle-El were given starter money but weren't really starters.

                        Despite all their signings of linemen, the Redskins have never had strong O-lines or D-Lines. Perhaps they don't get the continuity when they keep bringing in new guys?

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                        • JeremyHight
                          I wish I was Scrubs
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 4063

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Archer
                          You'd rather miss the playoffs then win a game and have a chance at moving on to the con champ? Solid logic
                          Kind of unrelated to a thread topic, but my buddy and I had this same argument. The basic premise is that if you aren't going to win the championship, it is better to get a pick closer to #1 because in the end, you don't get shit for getting to the Divisional Round other than a late draft pick.

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                          • MoonBBad
                            Think Blue!
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 236

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Archer
                            You'd rather miss the playoffs then win a game and have a chance at moving on to the con champ? Solid logic
                            If I were the cowboys yes. Any other team, no. Cowboys don't win when the pressure is on, they have proved that the past few seasons. They have the talent, but no testicular fortitude.
                            Golden Sombraro Season 2: Dodgers 10-8
                            AIM: MoonBBad YIM: omdbass PS3 ID: MoonBBad

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                            • MoonBBad
                              Think Blue!
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 236

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JeremyHight
                              Kind of unrelated to a thread topic, but my buddy and I had this same argument. The basic premise is that if you aren't going to win the championship, it is better to get a pick closer to #1 because in the end, you don't get shit for getting to the Divisional Round other than a late draft pick.
                              And...this season because it's an uncapped year, the Cowboys are going to be victims of the Final Eight Plan.

                              4. The Final Eight Plan. This is perhaps the most confusing issue of the uncapped year for fans, but the concept is pretty simple. The deeper a team went in the 2009 playoffs, the less it can do in free agency. For example, the final four teams in the playoffs -- the Saints, Colts, Vikings and Jets -- can sign an unrestricted free agent only if they lose a free agent. Don't expect these teams to be in the free-agent bidding. Those four teams have 24 free agents combined, and few of them are starters -- particularly if the Colts re-sign Brackett and the Saints re-sign Sharper. The four teams that lost in the divisional playoff round -- the Cowboys, Ravens, Cardinals and Chargers -- have a limited ability to go into free agency. They can replace a lost starter, but they can also sign one unrestricted free agent with a first-year salary of around $5.5 million. Basically, the top eight teams of 2009 have to take a wait-and-see position on free agency.
                              Golden Sombraro Season 2: Dodgers 10-8
                              AIM: MoonBBad YIM: omdbass PS3 ID: MoonBBad

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