Forget Haynesworth, Redskins sign another NT

[Fox1994]

is this a serious question? i mean he is kind of a fatass. speed is everything in the NFL

Unless you're the Raiders. :doh:

Anywho, the other dude is far too large to move to end, so I guess this would be the natural idea... If you have two beast tackles, the ideal idea would be, to me to just stick with the 4-3... But to each their own.

[Argath]

3-4 end is entirely different than what he has been his entire career. He has no chance of playing as a 3-4 end.

You said move Andre Carter to LB. San Fran did the exact same thing when they were in a 3-4 and he completely sucked. I think he had maybe 2 sacks and 30 tackles, off the top of my head. He's best at the DE spot.


Haynesworth is best on the bench clinging for his life with an oxygen tank

[Argath]

LOL at you attributing Brian Orakpo's success to a guy who played hard every 10th down. Orakpo is the best player on the team, not Haynesworth, and he had some MVP-talk directed his way last year.

I'm surprised the Redskins haven't cut Haynesworth for cap space and move Orakpo to NT. He takes up three blockers all by himself already.

I would love this but I'm afraid they won't because of his $100 mill contract. I've hated the signing since the beginning, I was always a fan of Griffin TBH

[Aso]

You said move Andre Carter to LB. San Fran did the exact same thing when they were in a 3-4 and he completely sucked. I think he had maybe 2 sacks and 30 tackles, off the top of my head. He's best at the DE spot.


Haynesworth is best on the bench clinging for his life with an oxygen tank

All his career he has been containing the outside run and being an edge rusher and then in his brief stint as a 3-4 OLB he dropped in coverage.

As a 3-4 DE He would need to gain 50-60-70 pounds and change his entire mindset. He would pretty much have to completely start over as a football player.

At least as a 3-4 OLB he has some experience. I can tell you right now if he doesn't play 3-4 OLB then he'll be either traded or released. There is absolutely no chance that he'll be a 3-4 end.

[MVP1991]

That is one huge defensive line.

[NAHSTE]

All his career he has been containing the outside run and being an edge rusher and then in his brief stint as a 3-4 OLB he dropped in coverage.

As a 3-4 DE He would need to gain 50-60-70 pounds and change his entire mindset. He would pretty much have to completely start over as a football player.

At least as a 3-4 OLB he has some experience. I can tell you right now if he doesn't play 3-4 OLB then he'll be either traded or released. There is absolutely no chance that he'll be a 3-4 end.

is he srs?

[Argath]

Andre Carter's Career Stats:

YEAR TEAM G TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2001 SFO 15 46 39 7 2 6.5 2 0 0 0 0
2002 SFO 16 54 45 9 4 12.5 3 0 0 0 0
2003 SFO 15 34 27 7 3 6.5 1 0 0 0 0
2004 SFO 7 10 8 2 1 2.0 1 0 0 0 0
2005 SFO 16 44 35 9 2 4.5 0 0 0 0 0
2006 WAS 16 56 47 9 2 6.0 0 0 0 0 0
2007 WAS 16 55 43 12 2 10.5 4 0 0 0 0
2008 WAS 16 37 23 14 1 4.0 0 0 0 0 0
2009 WAS 16 62 48 14 4 11.0 3 0 0 0 0
Career 133 398 315 83 21 63.5 14 0 0 0 0

*Note* while in SF he was an OLB in the 3-4, while in WAS he was a DE in the 4-3


Yes there is a difference between a 3-4 DE and a 4-3 DE, but that doesn't make up for the fact that Andre is best when he is right on the line. He is best at rushing the QB and getting into the backfield. If you watched him while he was in WAS, he's always one of the first players in the backfield. He can disrupt the interior line just as well as anybody.


lol @ him gaining 50 pounds. there's no way he gains 50 pounds of muscle before next season and if you want him to gain 50 pounds of fat you might as well move him to OL.


He's already good at what he does.. Why change it? Defensive Line was probably the only thing on the Redskins that did not need to be touched, they had the perfect trio of Carter/Haynesworth/Daniels going into next year. If any part of defense should be changed, it should be the pass defense considering we were one of the last ranked pass defenses in the league last year and gave up more 20+ yard pass plays than any team in the league.

[Boucher]

the redskins are still faggots

and you like the dick in your mouth

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Moving to a 34, he can play outside...but he needs to actually, you know...um try. If his motor runs hot (which has only happened when he has a contract on the line) he can play inside or out in the 34.

And, yes...Orakpo is the best player on the Redskins

[Argath]

the redskins are still faggots

k doucher

see what i did there?

I like Krebs better



Go back to the hell hole from which you spawned

[Argath]

Moving to a 34, he can play outside...but he needs to actually, you know...um try. If his motor runs hot (which has only happened when he has a contract on the line) he can play inside or out in the 34.

And, yes...Orakpo is the best player on the Redskins

Chris Cooley > Brian Orakpo

[Boucher]

no thanks

Hey guido go get a fuckin tan

[Aso]

Andre Carter's Career Stats:

YEAR TEAM G TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2001 SFO 15 46 39 7 2 6.5 2 0 0 0 0
2002 SFO 16 54 45 9 4 12.5 3 0 0 0 0
2003 SFO 15 34 27 7 3 6.5 1 0 0 0 0
2004 SFO 7 10 8 2 1 2.0 1 0 0 0 0
2005 SFO 16 44 35 9 2 4.5 0 0 0 0 0
2006 WAS 16 56 47 9 2 6.0 0 0 0 0 0
2007 WAS 16 55 43 12 2 10.5 4 0 0 0 0
2008 WAS 16 37 23 14 1 4.0 0 0 0 0 0
2009 WAS 16 62 48 14 4 11.0 3 0 0 0 0
Career 133 398 315 83 21 63.5 14 0 0 0 0

*Note* while in SF he was an OLB in the 3-4, while in WAS he was a DE in the 4-3


Yes there is a difference between a 3-4 DE and a 4-3 DE, but that doesn't make up for the fact that Andre is best when he is right on the line. He is best at rushing the QB and getting into the backfield. If you watched him while he was in WAS, he's always one of the first players in the backfield. He can disrupt the interior line just as well as anybody.


lol @ him gaining 50 pounds. there's no way he gains 50 pounds of muscle before next season and if you want him to gain 50 pounds of fat you might as well move him to OL.


He's already good at what he does.. Why change it? Defensive Line was probably the only thing on the Redskins that did not need to be touched, they had the perfect trio of Carter/Haynesworth/Daniels going into next year. If any part of defense should be changed, it should be the pass defense considering we were one of the last ranked pass defenses in the league last year and gave up more 20+ yard pass plays than any team in the league.

1st, I can look up his career stats if i want. I didn't need you to post them.

Andre Carter is best fit as a 4-3 DE, that we can both agree on. But as a 3-4 end Andre Carter would get absolutely no pressure on the QB and because of where he is aligned teams would easily run all over him. If you want him to contribute at all in a 3-4 defense it would have to be as an OLB.

There is a HUGE difference between a 4-3 end and a 3-4 end. One i don't think you understand. Unless your the Cowboys, as a 3-4 end for the most part Andre Carter would just be a 2-gapper. That is NOT what he does. He could still easily contribute in nickel and dime situations as a pass rusher, but i know Carter is making pretty good money and no way they only use him in those situations. He'll have to contribute on the starting defense as well if he wants to be on the team and that won't happen as a 3-4 end but it can as a 3-4 OLB.

I was also saying if he in any way he realistically will be playing as a 3-4 end is if he does bulk up which obviously gaining that much muscle mass in a few months and learning an entire new position while still being an impact player is entirely unrealistic.

[NAHSTE]

1st, I can look up his career stats if i want. I didn't need you to post them.

Andre Carter is best fit as a 4-3 DE, that we can both agree on. But as a 3-4 end Andre Carter would get absolutely no pressure on the QB and because of where he is aligned teams would easily run all over him. If you want him to contribute at all in a 3-4 defense it would have to be as an OLB.

There is a HUGE difference between a 4-3 end and a 3-4 end. One i don't think you understand. Unless your the Cowboys, as a 3-4 end for the most part Andre Carter would just be a 2-gapper. That is NOT what he does. He could still easily contribute in nickel and dime situations as a pass rusher, but i know Carter is making pretty good money and no way they only use him in those situations. He'll have to contribute on the starting defense as well if he wants to be on the team and that won't happen as a 3-4 end but it can as a 3-4 OLB.

I was also saying if he in any way he realistically will be playing as a 3-4 end is if he does bulk up which obviously gaining that much muscle mass in a few months and learning an entire new position while still being an impact player is entirely unrealistic.

Says the guy who suggested a 250 lb. player bulk up to 320 to play in the 3-4....

[Aso]

I didn't suggest it... name a 250 pound 3-4 end in the league... There isn't one. Which is why he would need to play as a 3-4 OLB.