[Countdown] Top 25 Players in the NFL

[bcransom]

Knicka serious?

Mangold was an all-pro Center this year on the best offensive line in the NFL. Saturday is ranked as the 20th best player in the NFL, yet Mangold isn't in the top 50.

Fletcher is not more of a sure tackler then David Harris, ect....

You are telling me that London Fletcher is a top 20 player in the NFL. Come on young'in you're better then that.

Willis>Fletcher
Harris>Fletcher
Beason>Fletcher
Ryans>Flecher
Lewis>Fletcher

The list goes on and on. Please take off your red and yellow glasses, it's impairing your vision

MANGOLD IS IN THE "BARELY MISSED CUT" SECTION.

Fletcher is absolutely a surer tackler than David Harris, and is far and away better in coverage than most if not all of the guys you've mentioned. Sorry if you can't appreciate what doesn't make the highlight reels.

Stop with the fucking ridiculously lame 3rd grade insults, let me finish the list, and judge it all you want when it's done instead of declaring lost cause when you see one thing you don't agree with. All this shit over one selection, give me a fucking break.

[Fox1994]

Fuck anyone hating on London Fletcher. More proof of his underrated status. Dude has been a top level LB for years now. Not a top flight guy anymore, but one of the most consistent LBers of this generation.

Huh? Bizzaro

Um what? You even say yourself that he's "not a top flight guy anymore"...sooo, how is he the 20th best player in the NFL!?

[bcransom]

Yes. Fletcher is a very good player, but top 20 in the league? No fucking way.

Brady
Brees
Manning
AP
Chris Johnson
Andre
Randy Moss
Larry
Gonzo
Gates
Witten
Marshall
Ed Reed
Revis
Nnamdi
Ware
Suggs
Harris
Urlacher
Polamalu
Harrison
Jared Allen
Peppers
Haynsworth
Hutchinson
Tuck
Snee

I'm doing this on the top of my head right now.. Show me one player on that list worse then Fletcher?

It would take forever for me to go through and talk about each one of their games and compare, so I'm not going to do it. I'm fine with anyone having a different opinion but acting like this shit is a sham because of Fletcher is fucking idiotic, and it's mainly the cause of people wanting to fit in, which is even more idiotic.

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

I would put 3 of the 4 LBs on the Steelers ALONE above London Fletcher. And I would only put James Harrison in the top 25 players in the NFL.

The list in general makes no sense, nor does your point in doing it, as Senser succinctly pointed out.

No... Fletcher is better then 3 of them, hands down... and the other one you shouldn't really compare because Harrison is a rush linebacker, different position.

Mangold>Saturday, yet Mangold isn't on the list, and Saturday is top 20? LMAO



1. Willis
2. Lewis
3. Beason
4. Urlacher
5. Harris
6. Ryans
7. Vilma
8. Mayo
9. Ruud
10. Scott

And those are only ILB's, LOL.

Bold are not better then Fletcher... and Urlacher hasn't been relevant since 2006. Fletcher doesn't get a ton of interceptions or jaw dropping plays, but he makes plays and tackles, runs the defense, etc.

Yes. Fletcher is a very good player, but top 20 in the league? No fucking way.

Brady
Brees
Manning
AP
Chris Johnson
Andre
Randy Moss
Larry
Gonzo
Gates
Witten
Marshall
Ed Reed
Revis
Nnamdi
Ware
Suggs
Harris
Urlacher
Polamalu
Harrison
Jared Allen
Peppers
Haynsworth
Hutchinson
Tuck
Snee

I'm doing this on the top of my head right now.. Show me one player on that list worse then Fletcher?

None of those bold are worthy of top 20 discussion... looks like you turned on madden and tried listing the top rated players at different positions.

Either way... your all cunts, if anybody else makes a list like this you get flamed just as much, its the internet, don't get so butthurt because the guy has an abnormal way of grading players, and BC, clean your fucking vagina, the more you get butthurt and try and defend yourself the more your gunna get flamed, so shut the fuck up and finish your list, don't worry about anybody else.... With that being said...


I don't agree with this list at all

[Bmore]

You guys are morons. Obviously this list is based primarily off ones OPINION. London Fletcher is one of the most underrated backers in the NFL, hence the reason why he just now made his first pro bowl (yea pro bowl hahaha, irrelevant). The dude is in the top of the league in tackles almost every year,(now sure you can throw out tons of reasons why) but the dude puts up the stats and can arguably be put up in the top of the backers list.

Let this guy do HIS list and stfu.

[SethMode]

OOBL and Bmore, you both sound like even bigger cunts than he does. OOBL you even point out that it's a list on the internet: he wouldn't be doing it if he didn't know that it would raise some eyebrows. Nobody does a list like this for shits and giggles.

So stop telling us not to comment when it's a list in a thread on an internet forum. If we DIDN'T comment there would be no point in it.

Also, stop acting like Fletcher is so good. And OOBL, 3 of the 4 Steelers LBs are better than him.

[SethMode]

I think that that's more my thing XxPRiM3TiMExX. He insists on making this list, when the NFL is not the NBA. There are clear cut roles in the NFL, and some roles are just more important than others. Which is why it makes not sense to have someone like Philip Rivers lower on a list than someone like London Fletcher, because there are probably at least 25 guys in the NFL that the Redskins would abandon Fletcher for in a heartbeat.

[stevsta]

RB:
Johnson
Peterson
MJD
Williams
Turner
Rice
Jackson
Benson
Brown
Barber



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How is turner ahead of Jackson that really is a travesty, Williams the past 2 years can make a case ahead of Jackson although Jackson is at a severe disadvantage to both of those players due to his team

and also to the op on my topic about Jackson not ahead of fletcher I cannot support a list without a ram on it

[Rayman]

This list is shit.

London Fletcher, due to tackles?

Jeff Saturday?

I'm anxious to see where Antonio Pierce ranks.

[bcransom]

No... Fletcher is better then 3 of them, hands down... and the other one you shouldn't really compare because Harrison is a rush linebacker, different position.



Bold are not better then Fletcher... and Urlacher hasn't been relevant since 2006. Fletcher doesn't get a ton of interceptions or jaw dropping plays, but he makes plays and tackles, runs the defense, etc.



None of those bold are worthy of top 20 discussion... looks like you turned on madden and tried listing the top rated players at different positions.

Either way... your all cunts, if anybody else makes a list like this you get flamed just as much, its the internet, don't get so butthurt because the guy has an abnormal way of grading players, and BC, clean your fucking vagina, the more you get butthurt and try and defend yourself the more your gunna get flamed, so shut the fuck up and finish your list, don't worry about anybody else.... With that being said...


I don't agree with this list at all

I'm not getting butthurt, I was always planning to finish the list in the morning and I'm going to. :ionno:

[bcransom]

This list is shit.

London Fletcher, due to tackles?

Jeff Saturday?

I'm anxious to see where Antonio Pierce ranks.

You say this list is shit and name two selections you disagree with out of how many I've already put out. You wouldn't have said it if there wasn't all this commotion about it.

And you didn't actually SAY anything, just criticized two picks you knew were unpopular.

[Rayman]

You say this list is shit and name two selections you disagree with out of how many I've already put out. You wouldn't have said it if there wasn't all this commotion about it.

And you didn't actually SAY anything, just criticized two picks you knew were unpopular.

Has nothing to do with popularity.

Jeff Saturday and London Fletcher are not Top 25 caliber players. They simply are not. There are football fans in elementary school who realize this.

I would have said the same thing even if everyone else agreed with you.

[Kuzzy Powers]

Um what? You even say yourself that he's "not a top flight guy anymore"...sooo, how is he the 20th best player in the NFL!?

I didnt say he was. I said fuck anyone whos hating on London Fletcher. Are you hating on London Fletcher, SethMode? If so. Fuck you.

[bcransom]

Has nothing to do with popularity.

Jeff Saturday and London Fletcher are not Top 25 caliber players. They simply are not. There are football fans in elementary school who realize this.

I would have said the same thing even if everyone else agreed with you.

I'll take what you're saying as Fletcher as your opinion, but blatantly disagreeing with putting the best C in football who has fabulous intangibles on a list like this is not logical.

[bcransom]

13.

Ryan Clady - LT - Denver Broncos

Clady is, in my mind, the best pure pass blocker in the NFL. We haven't seen any this good since Ogden. He has protected the blindside of both Jay Cutler and Kyle Orton extremely well over his two years in the NFL, and his 0 sacks allowed (In '08) from the blindside tackle position is simply incredible. He has some of the best intangibles I've ever seen out of a offensive tackle, including incredible footwork and hand skills, and is one of the surest bets in the league to slow down or even stop the best pass rushers in the league. His football IQ is also through the roof, as seems to be able to read the defense's blitz schemes very well, and a leader on that line. The best at what he does, and the type of player (the elite blindside blocker) that every team dreams of having.