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Ryan Grant is a much better RB than he gets credit for because of the offense he plays in, so I'm with Primetime on this one...
also, he went to my high school
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1. Chris Johnson
2. Ray Rice
3. Maurice Jones-Drew
4. Adrian Peterson
5. Steve Jackson
6. Frank Gore
7. Deangelo Williams
8. Jamaal Charles
9. Jonathan Stewart
10. Michael Turner
I don't think anyone can argue with Chris Johnson as #1. I think Ray Rice and Maurice Jones-Drew are the best all around backs in the league. These two can do it all. Then I have Peterson in at #4. He didn't have as good a year last year as he's accustomed to and is not as good a blocker as #2 and #3, he also has fumbling problems. Then at #5, Steve Jackson produces year in and year out despite being on probably the worst team collectively over the past three seasons. Frank Gore has been doing it for the past four seasons. He didn't have great stats last year because the 49ers shifted to more of a pass first offense and a not very good offensive line. Now he is coming back with a healthy Joe Staley and two, rookie first round pick, offensive lineman. Deangelo Williams had an amazing 2008 and still a good 2009, Jamaal Charles had an amazing end to the season and outplayed Jonathan Stewart who comes in at 9. Then Michael Turner with a great 2008 but a poor 2009 but I think he can and will bounce back in 2010.
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He's a productive back for sure, rarely fumbles, and picks up tough yards between the tackles.
Durable, reliable, and ultimately, above average he certainly is. But not a great back, IMHO. I'd probably have him in my top 10, but barely.
Yeah, he got 1200 yards back to back years, but it took him 312 carries one year and 282 the next. 1200 isn't even a lot in a 16 game season. That's an average of 78 yards per game, good for 11th best in the league in 2009. In 2008, he was 12th in the league in rushing ypg. So yeah, he's above average, but far from elite.
LOL at "passy happy offense" when Grant has received 600 carries in two years. Yeah, GB slings the ball around a lot but it's not like they only throw RG the occasional bone, he gets plenty of work in that offense. If anything, playing in such a pass-happy offense and getting so many carries, his numbers should be higher.
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I say that because Steven Jackson has been great, but he is limited by the offense around him, and it kinda hurts him, I know he's extremely talented and he still puts up great numbers year in and year out. But if Johnathan Stewart isn't in Carolina then D-Will has huge seasons year in and year out, even splitting carries he's still producing a lot. I think if you put them each on completely equal teams with identical carries D-Will would do better, at this point in their careers. The past 3 years as far as yards per rush and TD totals etc, D Will does better. a team and o-line may suck but that's not an excuse to be a full yard per carry below somebody.
Barry Sanders played with a horrible line
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Michael Turner is the most overrated RB in the NFL. His "great 2009" season he played the 7 worse run defense in the league and average 150 yards per game vs them. Then the other 9 games he average 60 yards per game. He got lucky he played such shitty teams.Comment
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Like I said, he's my #8 in the league. Not a superstar by any means, but a great RB considering the switches the Packers have gone through the past few years. He hasn't seen an o-line stay the same his entire career, he went through the favre-rodgers switch, went through a contract dispute that slowed his start of the season 2 years ago, yet still has put up Top 3 numbers in terms of yardage the past 3 years since his first start. I'm not saying he is #1 or anything like that, just a solid top 10 RB in the league. This season should be even better for him barring injury.
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Ricky Williams and/or Ronnie Brown are still better RBs than J.Stewart, M Turner, Ray Rice, R. Grant, and Jamaal fucking Charles.
I mean really???? Jamaal FUCKING Charles????Comment
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Ray Rice is easily top 5. LOL at putting Ronne "half-man, half-a-season" Brown or Ricky Williams ahead of him.Comment
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Williams doesnt have nearly the same skill set of Jackson. I think in the bolded scenerio, Jackson would outproduce him by a wide margain.I say that because Steven Jackson has been great, but he is limited by the offense around him, and it kinda hurts him, I know he's extremely talented and he still puts up great numbers year in and year out. But if Johnathan Stewart isn't in Carolina then D-Will has huge seasons year in and year out, even splitting carries he's still producing a lot. I think if you put them each on completely equal teams with identical carries D-Will would do better, at this point in their careers. The past 3 years as far as yards per rush and TD totals etc, D Will does better. a team and o-line may suck but that's not an excuse to be a full yard per carry below somebody.
Barry Sanders played with a horrible line
Take a look at Jackson's numbers the last time he played in an offense that wasnt abysmal (2006).
And the last three years, the Rams havent had a bad offensive line, they have had a historically bad offensive line. Just look at the career curve of Marc Bulger and the injury history of both Bulger & Jackson. The Rams have also had zero passing game to speak of, and Jackson is the one & only focus of the defense every single week.
It's unfair to compare ypc in this case. Stewart averages over 5.0 ypc in the same offense as Williams, so it seems to me its more a product of a run first team built to run the ball. Neither of those guys would produce at a per carry level like that on STL, and it's safe to say Jackson would easily go 5 per pop with Carolina--especially splitting time.Comment
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LOL Rinkie Brilliams > Ray Rice
Pretty sure that is Mr. Webster's definition of Homer.Comment
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