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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    #31
    Looks like he's heading to UCLA.

    Really good article from the SBT on the transfer.

    SOUTH BEND — Patience.

    In the days leading up to wide receiver Shaquelle Evans decision to march into Notre Dame head football coach Brian Kelly's office Monday and declare his intent to transfer, it was the factor that most impeded his climb to the top of the depth chart.


    "It would be easy for me to say, ‘He just needed to be patient,' but he didn't see it that way," Kelly said Tuesday. "We were happy with his development. He was moving in the right direction. It was (just) going to take a little bit longer.

    "Sometimes that's the difference today, when we're in a society where, ‘I want it now, I've got to have it right now.' "

    By leaving now, the 6-foot-1, 205-pound sophomore from Inglewood, Calif., does have a chance to land at a school that hasn't yet started classes and still be eligible to play the entire 2011 season.

    Kelly said he wouldn't restrict the list of schools from which Evans could pick. Predecessor Charlie Weis wouldn't release transferring players to schools he knew would appear on upcoming Irish schedules.

    "He's a West Coast kid," Kelly said. "I think he'd like to go back to the West Coast to be closer to his family. We'll release him to any school he chooses that's the right fit for him."

    That would include presumably Irish arch-rival USC, where Evans committed initially as a high school senior before flipping to the Irish. However, it appears Evans will end up at the Trojans' crosstown rival, UCLA.

    Those close to the program characterized the transfer as a done deal late Tuesday afternoon with only some administrative kinks to work out.

    "We have contacted Shaquelle," Bruins coach Rick Neuheisel said after practice Tuesday."

    UCLA, on the quarter system, doesn't begin classes until late September. Former Irish tight end Joseph Fauria transferred there in the summer of 2009 and is currently the No. 2 tight end.

    Evans, a former prep All-American and No. 44 prospect nationally in the 2009 recruiting class, per analyst Tom Lemming, is the second Irish player to announce a transfer since Kelly was hired last December. Freshman cornerback Spencer Boyd transferred in July to the University of South Florida.

    Evans was not immediately available for comment, but his mother, Kallisha Wright, said Tuesday her son is still attending classes at ND until he finalizes the transfer.

    Evans battled homesickness and depth-chart doldrums as a freshman in 2009. He had seven catches for 61 yards in 33 minutes of playing time last season. Four of those catches for 34 yards came during what appeared to be a breakout game against Washington in game five of the season.

    However, those turned out to be his final Notre Dame career statistics. The only one of ND's final seven games of 2009 in which he saw cameo time was a blowout of Washington State on Halloween night.

    "After the Washington game, I didn't play anymore, for reasons that are unknown, still," Evans said back in the spring. "I don't know why (the coaches) wouldn't let me play anymore. I wasn't hurt or anything."

    Kelly's hiring offered Evans a new beginning, and by all accounts, he took full advantage of it. In the summer, he earned a reputation as one of the team's hardest workers.

    But it wasn't enough to get him into a starting role.

    Junior All-America candidate Michael Floyd locked down one receiver spot. Evans then was moved to challenge freshman TJ Jones at the X receiver position, but he couldn't get past him.

    Ultimately, he settled in at the slot receiver position, but converted running back Theo Riddick earned the top spot there.

    "I think you have to look at it that he's still a young receiver developing," Kelly said of Evans. "He was better suited in the slot position for us, and Theo Riddick was outstanding. (Riddick) clearly had a skill level that could put him in a position to play right away."

    Kelly said Monday's meeting with Evans was a one-way conversation and that the coach didn't try to talk him out of the decision.

    "I am not really good at talking anybody out of staying with a football team," Kelly said. "I just have never been down that road. I'll point out some things that I think it's important to point out, but I don't know my role really is to talk somebody out of quitting.

    "I always will say, ‘Have you talked to your family? What are your family's thoughts about this? Have you clearly talked to them?' Because if they haven't talked to their family, that's a red flag for me. He said he's talked to his family about it, and that's why we wish him the best.

    "Sometimes those decisions are ones that we really won't be able to understand. And maybe in five or 10 years, you look back on it and go, ‘That was a great decision, that was a poor decision.' I've been doing it for 20 years, and anytime a player leaves, it's disappointing."

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    • FirstTimer
      Freeman Error

      • Feb 2009
      • 18729

      #32
      Originally posted by BobSmuggins
      Okay, it's not just Notre Dame. Recruiting services in general are retarded. He was a 5-star recruit according to Rivals but coaching staffs who evaluated him probably felt otherwise. And as Larry said, I doubt Shaq had a committable offer to USC.
      ESPN had him ranked highly too.

      Plus if the article above is right he had verbally "soft" comitted to USC then changed to Notre Dame.

      I have yet to read or see anything saying he was never a soft commit to USC..the flip flopped to ND.

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      • NAHSTE
        Probably owns the site
        • Feb 2009
        • 22233

        #33
        Sounds like all parties handled it with class. Good on Kelly for allowing him to transfer wherever.

        Plus if the article above is right he had verbally "soft" comitted to USC then changed to Notre Dame.

        I have yet to read or see anything saying he was never a soft commit to USC..the flip flopped to ND.
        I'm not pretending to know for sure, I have no insider information. Just gonna say that in recruiting, just because a kid commits to a school doesn't mean the school has committed to them. LSU had the same thing happen last summer when Storm Johnson (who was listed as offered on Rivals, etc.) tried to give Miles his verbal commitment. The staff was like "Uh, can you wait a few months?" because he was behind a few other backs on our board. We ended up taking the backs we liked better and Storm went elsewhere.

        Not saying this happened with USC and Evans, but it does happen a lot. There's a big difference between an "offer" and a committable offer, especially with the top flight football factories.

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        • FirstTimer
          Freeman Error

          • Feb 2009
          • 18729

          #34
          Originally posted by BobSmuggins
          Sounds like all parties handled it with class. Good on Kelly for allowing him to transfer wherever.
          In all honesty I just wish coaches wouldn't comment on it. But I agree with Kelly allowing him to transfer wherever.





          Originally posted by BobSmuggins
          I'm not pretending to know for sure, I have no insider information.
          Nor does anyone really. But I think it's less reliable to go off a guy's "doubts" about a recruit from 2 years ago, than it is to go off of what basically every major news outlet was saying. Logically I don't think it would be that much of a shock if Evans had a commitable offer from USC. He's from the LA area, was highly regarded, and frankly up until the last week or so of his recruitment people were basically writing him off as a lock to USC.


          Originally posted by BobSmuggins
          Just gonna say that in recruiting, just because a kid commits to a school doesn't mean the school has committed to them. LSU had the same thing happen last summer when Storm Johnson (who was listed as offered on Rivals, etc.) tried to give Miles his verbal commitment. The staff was like "Uh, can you wait a few months?" because he was behind a few other backs on our board. We ended up taking the backs we liked better and Storm went elsewhere.
          No doubt that this happens...however to say it did here...with no proof whatsoever is a pretty big leap IMO.



          Originally posted by BobSmuggins
          Not saying this happened with USC and Evans, but it does happen a lot. There's a big difference between an "offer" and a committable offer, especially with the top flight football factories.
          Agreed. I can't say for sure if he did have a committable offer from USC, however, it wouldn't be surprising if he did and no matter where he ended up he was still a REALLY highly regarded prospect....

          Tom Lemming is an ass clown and a joke IMO but the whole "he was only highly rated because Notre Dame was looking at him" thing is lame. Overall I lean towards agreeing with the general consensus of sites like Rivals, Scouts, and ESPN.

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          • Sportsbuck
            Buckeye For Life
            • Dec 2008
            • 3045

            #35
            USC, UCLA, and ND were the 3 teams recruiting him the hardest... he definately had a committable offer from USC.

            He felt more at home at ND and fell in love with the school.

            Quote from Evans a month before he committed to ND: "Right now, I'm really feeling Notre Dame. I had a great trip back there and that's where I feel most comfortable. It's hard to explain but I just felt so at home at Notre Dame and I've never felt that way around any other school."

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            • FirstTimer
              Freeman Error

              • Feb 2009
              • 18729

              #36
              Originally posted by Sportsbuck
              USC, UCLA, and ND were the 3 teams recruiting him the hardest... he definately had a committable offer from USC.

              He felt more at home at ND and fell in love with the school.

              Quote from Evans a month before he committed to ND: "Right now, I'm really feeling Notre Dame. I had a great trip back there and that's where I feel most comfortable. It's hard to explain but I just felt so at home at Notre Dame and I've never felt that way around any other school."
              Which is funny/ironic to read because last season he battled "home sickness."

              Sad it didn't work out and I wish Evans the best.

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              • NAHSTE
                Probably owns the site
                • Feb 2009
                • 22233

                #37
                Originally posted by FirstTimer
                In all honesty I just wish coaches wouldn't comment on it. But I agree with Kelly allowing him to transfer wherever.






                Nor does anyone really. But I think it's less reliable to go off a guy's "doubts" about a recruit from 2 years ago, than it is to go off of what basically every major news outlet was saying. Logically I don't think it would be that much of a shock if Evans had a commitable offer from USC. He's from the LA area, was highly regarded, and frankly up until the last week or so of his recruitment people were basically writing him off as a lock to USC.



                No doubt that this happens...however to say it did here...with no proof whatsoever is a pretty big leap IMO.





                Agreed. I can't say for sure if he did have a committable offer from USC, however, it wouldn't be surprising if he did and no matter where he ended up he was still a REALLY highly regarded prospect....

                Tom Lemming is an ass clown and a joke IMO but the whole "he was only highly rated because Notre Dame was looking at him" thing is lame. Overall I lean towards agreeing with the general consensus of sites like Rivals, Scouts, and ESPN.
                Yeah I really shouldn't have even said anything given my ignorance to the situation. There are plenty of chances to rip on Notre Dame's recruits, this was not a good one.

                I apologize for the reach.

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                • Irish
                  do you see my jesus chain
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 4416

                  #38
                  Now that Shaq is out, I am really hoping we sign a WR this year. We have 16 verbal commits so far, 0 WRs and 0 Safeties. I am assuming we will grab maybe 4 more guys this year. Hopefully 1 is RB Savon Huggins, then I hope we can grab 1 WR and 2 safeties. I doubt it goes down like that, but thats what I hope.

                  Obviously we need safeties. Hopefully BK can get some signed, and high quality guys.

                  Then before Shaq leaving I was fine if we didnt sign a WR now I think its a must.

                  (Assuming Floyd leaves our potential depth chart next year)

                  Tj jones, Riddick(will be his second year at the position), Goodman, Toma, Smith, Jackson, Collinsworth, and Deion Walker who I always forget.

                  Thats a very inexperienced group right now, and none are really highly touted guys, TJ being the exception kinda. I would like to see 1 guy added to that group.

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                  • FirstTimer
                    Freeman Error

                    • Feb 2009
                    • 18729

                    #39
                    Originally posted by LiquidLarry2BruceWF
                    One thing I've learned following the recruiting game is that what you said, is rarely the case.

                    There are very few guys that are being actively recruited by "everyone in the nation"...

                    Shaq Wilson sounds like a situation Louis Nix was in and sounds about to have the same attitude. "Recruited by everyone" but the schools didn't want or wouldn't take his commitment and the school he was committed to, stopped wanting him.
                    Nix scores major points from me for still choosing to go to Notre Dame even after Weis was let go because Nix felt ND was still the best choice for him all around regardless of coach. Nix could have gone to a few other top tier schoosl which at the time were still more stable but chose to go to ND when they essentialyl had no head coach.

                    Nix has been shown to have a much better attitude than Evans has since he's been on campus and it wouldn't surprise me if he sees meaningful playing time by mid season.

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                    • FirstTimer
                      Freeman Error

                      • Feb 2009
                      • 18729

                      #40
                      Nice to get that first win.

                      The Good:

                      - Mike Mayock in the booth. He did an amazing job breaking the game down and really did an excellent job overall.

                      -Shorter commercial breaks. Thank God.

                      - The running game. Granted Purdue is known for having a crappy run defense but even still Notre Dame's run game hasn't looked this good since Week 2 of last season..regardless of how bad some of the teams they were playing were in run defense. Allen looked faster than last season and Cierre Wood earned himself a ton of playing time and looks to be a real big play threat.

                      - Dayne Crist. For his first start he didn't look shaky, only really forced one pass, and took what Purdue gave him. I was actually impressed to see him not force the ball into Floyd all game but hit him when he needed to. He missed Floyd on one pass over the top in the end zone and air mailed a throw to Rudolph, but overall he look good and the knee looked great when ever he had to move around.

                      -Gary Gray and Darrin Walls. Both played great games. Gray played great against the run and both played well in pass coverage. Walls almost got beat deep once but that was mainly because the Purdue WR almost made a spectacular catch. Neither was really out of position at all.

                      - 2nd-4th Qtr Manti Te'o. Looked fast, strong, and to be a sure tackler.

                      - Kyle Rudolph. Made plays whenever he was called on...especially on 3rd down.

                      - Coaching staff. That game could have very easily turned against Notre Dame after the Floyd fumble and Purdue score. But credit this staff with instilling some mental toughness with this team.

                      - Bennet Jackson. Meet this years Mike Anello. I swear he had roughly 150 special teams tackles.

                      The Bad

                      - Brian Smith. The guy just seemed to be out of position all game long. Whenever you saw a replay involving him it was him over pursuing a play or getting beat underneath in coverage. The adjustment back to OLB is going to take some time but it's really clear why Kerry Neal beat him out for the job.

                      - Pass Rush. We got some sacks, yes. But we never really generated any consistent pressure. Which is a concern. Thankfully Marve sucks so he wasn't able to do much with the extra time but as the season moves on we are going to need more pressure generated in the pass rush.


                      -1st Qtr Manti Te'o. I think he missed about 3-4 tackles on one drive that would have either stopped the drive on 3rd down or made it 4th and 5 or 6 and a punt rather than putting Purdue in position to go for it on 4th and 1 or 2. Seemed to be leaving his feet way too much and launching himself at ball carriers rather than wrapping up.

                      - The Notre Dame's backup QB's red hats. I know it's so Crist can get the calls but.....sweet Jesus...Couldn't they be like Gold or Kelly Green or something?

                      The Ugly

                      - Floyd's fumble.....Could have been REAL ugly had Purdue come all the way back...but you HAVE to hold on to that football.

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                      Biggest concern for next week: Denard Robinson's mobility. Notre Dame had a real tough time defending the roll out plays by Purdue and Robinson's ability to tuck and run with those rather than just throw could cause some big problems. Hopefully Kelly and Diaco can scheme something up.

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                      • FirstTimer
                        Freeman Error

                        • Feb 2009
                        • 18729

                        #41
                        Originally posted by JayRock
                        I agree for the most part. The Red Hats are because there is absolutely no other red on the sideline. If they were gold they would blend in with the rest of the helmets.
                        Make them bright yellow then. The red is annoying





                        Originally posted by JayRock
                        All in all, they played well. If there was one thing I'd pound into their heads during practice it would be one word: FINISH. Finish the drive with a touchdown, finish the game when you have the chance, and finish in all facets of the game. If they do that, I believe they will win. Settling for three field goals and a fumble inside the red zone after good drives by a rookie quarterback is a no-no. Getting it in the endzone for the four extra points will be huge.
                        I forgot about this in "The Bad".

                        Really concerned to see us still having problem inside the 5 yard line. Granted one time Crist missed an open Rudolph so it was more execution of the play rather than coaches not game planning right but one of the most frustrating things with Weis was the inability to pound the ball in from close. We had issues again with that yesterday. Don't want to paint with broad strokes after only one game when we left some plays out there(the Floyd fumble, the misfire to Rudolph) but it's the "fan" in me wanting to see everything cured at once.

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                        How was the atmosphere at the stadium?

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                        • FirstTimer
                          Freeman Error

                          • Feb 2009
                          • 18729

                          #42
                          Originally posted by JayRock
                          Finishing has always been a problem. Hopefully a better running game helps it out but running from the shotgun at the 1 yard line isn't the greatest thing in the world, IMO.

                          For the most part, the atmosphere was above average. Before the game the tone was kind of nervous but it improved. You can usually tell how "into it" the crowd is by the first play for the opposing team and it really wasn't that loud. As the game wore on, people got more and more into the game though. Then, when it was about to erupt Floyd fumbled. It really took the air out of the stadium and you could tell everybody let out an "uh oh, here we go again" that was only increased by the Wood fumble on the kickoff return. During the Purdue drive by their own endzone, it got very loud. They ended up having a false start and too many players in the huddle penalties which screwed the drive, which I believe was at last partially because of the crowd. Everyone seemed relieved after as well.

                          It's been louder before, but not bad for a Purdue home game. I go to a lot of games and its sad when UConn and Washington are the two loudest I've been to in awhile. Things should be pretty amped for next week since its Michigan and September 11th and both teams are on the rise.
                          The Washington game last year was the loudest I had heard the stadium in years. Honestly most likely since Michigan in '06(before the started whipping our ass) or Michigan in '02.

                          I didn't think the crowd yesterday would have been all that great. Like you said I think it was more nervous energy in the place. I'm convinced the place would have exploded though had they gone up 27-3 on that Floyd touchdown.

                          The crowd has a real shelter dog mentality because of the abuse it's suffered the last few seasons IMO. Skittish and excitable but until they start winning consistently the crowd won't reach it's old levels...

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                          • Irish
                            do you see my jesus chain
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 4416

                            #43
                            I guess I'll make some points.

                            -I really took Clausen's accuracy for granted, especially his touch on passes. Crist looked really good. Needs to be less tentative in the pocket with pressure.

                            -Armando Allen looked bad at times, then looked really good. Im still on the fence on if I like him or not. He has the skills, but I dont see consistency. Cierre Wood, like I said, will be the starter by year end. He looked really good.

                            -Oline looked fine. Look worse than last year. Should still be fine but they still need to improve.

                            -HOLD ONTO THE BALL.

                            -OLBs need to stop over pursuing, Brian Smith. That could kill us next week if they dont play their position better.

                            -Carlo looked slow, but he can tackle.

                            -It looked like we finally learned to tackle until that Dierking got in. Then we started looking like the old ND defense with the inability to bring guys down.

                            -We finally have consistent special teams.

                            -Hopefully we learn to put away games.

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                            • Woy
                              RIP West
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 16372

                              #44
                              *gulps*

                              I'm rooting for you guys against Michigan. Can't stand the hype over Denard Robinson.



                              ^ Shouts to MvP for the sick sig. GFX TEAM BACK

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                              • Irish
                                do you see my jesus chain
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 4416

                                #45
                                Bout time you learned the ND way Woy.

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