Dave sees Bill Simmons' top-32 QBs and raises him with his top-32 QBs (NFL)

[dave]

it must suck being an Eagles fan then

Says the Giants fan who seems more interested in the Miami Heat and their third option on offense.

[Aso]

1. Peyton Manning
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady
4. Aaron Rodgers
5. Philip Rivers
6. Ben Roethlisberger
7. Tony Romo
8. Brett Favre
9. Matt Schaub
10. Eli Manning
11. Donovan McNabb
12. Matt Ryan
13. Jay Cutler
14. David Garrard
15. Joe Flacco
16. Vince Young
17. Kyle Orton
18. Carson Palmer
19. Chad Henne
20. Matt Hasselbeck
21. Alex Smith
22. Matt Cassel
23. Jason Campbell
24. Mark Sanchez
25. Sam Bradford
26. Matt Moore
27. Josh Freeman
28. Kevin Kolb
29. Jake Delhomme
30. Matthew Stafford
31. Trent Edwards
32. Derek Anderson

There, did it real quick.

[dave]

Simply listing them isn't enough.
I want a little depth.
Explain why you rank them where you do.
One or two sentences are enough.

[Hasselbeck]

If I'm a coach and need a QB in a playoff game, I take Roethlisberger over Brees ... and, sorry, that's how I rank my QBs.

If you pass for 5,000 yards in a season and do nothing in the playoffs, I don't care.
If you're Troy Aikman and get lousy stats and keep winning in the playoffs, I want you behind the center.

This would have held some water before February.. but not anymore.

Brees Super Bowl XLIV stats
32/39 - 288 - 2 TD

Rapiesburger Super Bowl XL and XLIII stats combined
30/51 - 379 - TD - 3 INT

Brees completed more passes in one Super Bowl than Ben did in two. Not to mention, he was throughly outplayed in both of those games by the opposing QB (Hasselbeck, Warner)

You can't really take away Ben's 2 rings.. well at least one of them, (I think you can definitely take a lot from him from the Super Bowl XL performance) but not only did Brees play OUTSTANDING in the regular season last year, he followed that up with an absolutely perfect postseason (8 TD, 0 INT, 71% comp percentage)

I'm sorry I don't see how you take Rapiesburger over Brees in any situation right now.

[dave]

This would have held some water before February.. but not anymore.

Brees Super Bowl XLIV stats
32/39 - 288 - 2 TD

Rapiesburger Super Bowl XL and XLI stats combined
30/51 - 379 - TD - 3 INT

Brees completed more passes in one Super Bowl than Ben did in two. Not to mention, he was throughly outplayed in both of those games by the opposing QB (Hasselbeck, Warner)

You can't really take away Ben's 2 rings.. well at least one of them, (I think you can definitely take a lot from him from the Super Bowl XL performance) but not only did Brees play OUTSTANDING in the regular season last year, he followed that up with an absolutely perfect postseason (8 TD, 0 INT, 71% comp percentage)

I'm sorry I don't see how you take Rapiesburger over Brees in any situation right now.

Your opinion doesn't count. You know why.
You will never get over the Seattle-Pittsburgh sham, which is totally acceptable.
But you can't deny Roethlisberger's playoff success.

[Hasselbeck]

Your opinion doesn't count. You know why.
You will never get over the Seattle-Pittsburgh sham, which is totally acceptable.
But you can't deny Roethlisberger's playoff success.

Super Fraud 40 aside.. Brees is one hell of a QB. I am hard pressed to take him over anyone not named Peyton Manning right now.

[dave]

Super Fraud 40 aside.. Brees is one hell of a QB. I am hard pressed to take him over anyone not named Peyton Manning right now.

I stand by my list and respect Brees.
I need another great playoff run by Brees before I put him in my top-three.

[dave]

1. Peyton Manning
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady
4. Aaron Rodgers
5. Philip Rivers
6. Ben Roethlisberger
7. Tony Romo
8. Brett Favre
9. Matt Schaub
10. Eli Manning
11. Donovan McNabb
12. Matt Ryan
13. Jay Cutler
14. David Garrard
15. Joe Flacco
16. Vince Young
17. Kyle Orton
18. Carson Palmer
19. Chad Henne
20. Matt Hasselbeck
21. Alex Smith
22. Matt Cassel
23. Jason Campbell
24. Mark Sanchez
25. Sam Bradford
26. Matt Moore
27. Josh Freeman
28. Kevin Kolb
29. Jake Delhomme
30. Matthew Stafford
31. Trent Edwards
32. Derek Anderson

There, did it real quick.

I can tell you did it quick.

It took no thought.

[Houston]

Only the first 15 or so matter, after that you're just stacking bad QB's on top of other bad QB's

[dave]

Only the first 15 or so matter, after that you're just stacking bad QB's on top of other bad QB's

Analytical thought is a challenge for you, so I understand that opinion.
For real NFL fans, the difference between the 28th best QB and 32rd best means something.
To say the top 15 only means something tells me what I need to know about you as a football fan.

[Aso]

Dave your list is complete shit and your reasons are bogus.

[Aso]

I can tell you did it quick.

It took no thought.

It took plenty of thought...

[Houston]

To say the top 15 only means something tells me what I need to know about you as a football fan.

Yeah. I'm not really concerned about who's the better out of the #29 and the #30 QB in the league. They both suck so I really don't care.

Put me in that category.

[dave]

This list is pretty shitty. Cutler over Schaub? Fa real? Roethlisberger over Brees? Fa real?
Cassell and Delhomme over Moore? Fa real? Edwards NOT at 32? Fa real fa real?

Your second "fa" real disqualifies you from intelligent conversation ... errr, white homie.

[Rayman]

You get groaned for putting Romo behind Elisha. I don't care what your reasoning is.