Sources: Reggie Bush losing his Heisman

[Anthony]

2005 USC Trojans

Matt Leinart lost his starting job.
LenDale White out for the season.
Reggie Bush lost Kim Kardashian and is going to lose his Heisman.


The only true winner.

[FedEx227]

Yeah, it must really suck to be Matt Leinart or Reggie Bush.

[JeremyHight]

you are opening a can of worms, but the NCAA has more than enough money to foot the bill and pay for stipends for ALL athletes...

The NCAA governs 40,600 student athletes. According to their public budgets, they made $710,000,000 last year. In fantasy land, that would mean something along the lines of $17,487.68 per athlete.

But in reality, they pay roughly 111,000,000 for all the programs they provide for both students and members. So that $17,487.68 becomes $14,742.12.

Then they have to pay the workers at the NCAA, so there goes another $29,000,000. That $14,742.12 becomes $14,027.66.

Well, then they have championships to run in all the divisions, as those don't pay for themselves. There goes over $60,000,000 for just Division 1 and another $50,000,000 for Division 2 and 3 combined. So that $14,027.66 becomes $11,190.86.

But wait, those Division 1 schools who get money from the NCAA for different programs to help their student athletes want to keep those up. Plus, they want their fair share of the marketting money that the NCAA is making, it isn't fair that just the NCAA gets this money, so they have to give it back to the schools who pay membership fees and allow for such large TV deals. Plus, entire Athletic Departments are dependent on this money in order to keep up these athletic programs. Well, there goes over $410,000,000. So that $11,190.86 becomes a grand total off... $885.78.

Hmm... that doesn't nearly as nice as one would have thought.

source: http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/...e0d622cf56f2f3

[JeremyHight]

I'm starting to see that, especially state schools which get budgets from likely bankrupt states. It's just not possible. But why don't we just let these guys get the gifts? Does it really matter that much anymore?

Is your enjoyment of college athletics heightened because of the facade that these guys are amateur athletes?

I say that colleges should have two alternatives. They can either give a scholarship that has strings attached (no taking extra money, no gifts, no fake jobs, and etc.) or they can give no support what so ever (not even a scholarship), but the kids can accept gifts/free money. Either kids are on a strings attached athletic scholarship or given free reign. There shouldn't be an inbetween because policing it would be impossible and would just make it a bunch of haves and have nots.

No matter what athlete though, they'd never get the roughly $30,000+ from boosters like these kids are getting now through the university. Plus, it would be completely tied to their performance, so if they tank, they would be potentially in debt.

[FedEx227]

But where are we at now? We're basically at that point but continue pretending that these guys aren't getting gifts, fake jobs, homework done for them. These guys are receiving scholarships AND gifts AND fake jobs AND help on homework, but we just aren't acknowledging it until it becomes SO obvious that they investigate suspend some kids and do the same thing with the next batch.

To me it's just lying to themselves and being hypocritical.

[Fox1994]

Don't see how this matters...everyone will still think of him as a Heisman winning RB. He would have to commit double homicide before that changed.

Wait....

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Btw, that was an interesting breakdown JHight. Very impressive. Still $900 dollars is better than $0.

[Aso]

Don't know much about this, but... Has what happened to Bush actually helped his on-the-field play? If not he should keep the heisman.

[Atlas]

^Bush was declared ineligible, and that is the sole reason they stripped him of the Heisman (an ineligible player can't win the Heisman)...

also, JH, im going to look into those numbers a bit more, but decent breakdown none-the-less...

[Kuzzy Powers]

If Bush was stripped then atleast half of the other winners probably should be stripped too. Id say the amount of Heisman caliber players that are getting free hand outs is a lot higher than 50%.

[JeremyHight]

Don't know much about this, but... Has what happened to Bush actually helped his on-the-field play? If not he should keep the heisman.

Tough to say. If other guys have to work a job while Reggie Bush can go work out or even relax and rest his body because he is getting a house and money for free, who is to say that he isn't gaining an advantage?

Obviously, this isn't as clear cut as say using HGH, but while some people are working jobs to get by and even sending money home to support their families, Bush never had to worry about that.

[citizenerased]

If Bush was stripped then atleast half of the other winners probably should be stripped too. Id say the amount of Heisman caliber players that are getting free hand outs is a lot higher than 50%.

Then Bush deserves to get it stripped if he is the only one who was stupid enough to get caught.