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  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
    • 26142

    #46
    This is yet ANOTHER in the endless reasons to have a playoff.

    If you had a playoff with a few "at large" spots available, schools would make a better effort to beef up the OOC schedule to help the resume. Just like college basketball. Under this scenerio, it would be much more beneficial for Nebraska to drop the South Dakota St's, and add the Boise's -- even at the cost of $1M (which is nothing for Nebraska, don't kid yourself. The other bums on their schedule are getting at least $500k-$700k).

    DOWN WITH THE CARTEL

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    • FirstTimer
      Freeman Error

      • Feb 2009
      • 18729

      #47
      Unless you have a way in college football of objectively determining who is in a playoff(conference champions only) then having one just to have one is retarded.

      The polling system was "broken" so they went to the BCS...which used the polling system to help come up with rankings.

      The BCS is "broken" so now people want a playoff system that uses the "broken" BCS(which is heavily reliant on the even older "broken" polling system) to help create a playoff system and assume that won't be broken as well?

      The whole playoff discussion for the most part is a circle jerk in idiocy.

      Either go back to the way it was pre-BCS and just accept the "broken-ness" of the system and enjoy it or go to a playoff where only conference champs get in(from every conference) and call it a day. Enough with this stupid ass shit trying to use rankings, and at large bids based on systems and rankings everyone says don't work.

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      • FedEx227
        Delivers
        • Mar 2009
        • 10454

        #48
        Also, it will eventually just move the argument to something new. I know that it won't be as hardcore of an argument but say they do a 4-team playoff based off BCS and Boise or another mid level team is on the outside looking in of that. It's the same shit just a different argument. You have the polls underrating a potential team, leaving them out of the title game.

        Also, anything more than an 8 team playoff becomes ridiculous because I really don't think a 2-loss team should have a chance to play for the National Championship.
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        • Warner2BruceTD
          2011 Poster Of The Year
          • Mar 2009
          • 26142

          #49
          If you have an 8 team playoff, regardless of the method used to pick the teams, the only contraversy would be whether the 7th-10th best teams were "left out". You would be pretty much guarunteed the best 5 or 6 teams would be involved.

          The current system, most years you have a team left out that can make a decent claim of being THE BEST team.

          I'd rather potentially screw the 7th or 8th best team, than the first or second best team.

          EVERY OTHER SPORT IN THE WORLD uses a playoff, you can't come up with an argument that would convince me that college football is the only sport where it wouldnt work. It's absurd to the highest degree, and baffling to me that some people don't want it.

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          • 1ke
            D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F
            • Mar 2009
            • 6641

            #50
            Conference champs get it. Let them settle it. Who wouldnt love to see UTEP or La-Monroe play against Oregon and tOSU in the first round?

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            • Warner2BruceTD
              2011 Poster Of The Year
              • Mar 2009
              • 26142

              #51
              Originally posted by 1ke
              Conference champs get it. Let them settle it. Who wouldnt love to see UTEP or La-Monroe play against Oregon and tOSU in the first round?
              What the haters of the "little guys" don't understand, is a playoff would finally shut up guys like me, and the Boise's, when the "little guys" get stomped in the playoffs every year.

              But to not give EVERYONE a chance at a championship, and just arbitrarily pick two teams to play, is outrageous. Every college football fan should be outraged, and demand change.

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              • FirstTimer
                Freeman Error

                • Feb 2009
                • 18729

                #52
                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                EVERY OTHER SPORT IN THE WORLD uses a playoff, you can't come up with an argument that would convince me that college football is the only sport where it wouldnt work. It's absurd to the highest degree, and baffling to me that some people don't want it.
                And I wouldn't try.

                All I'm saying is having at large teams being selected subjectivly by an admittedly broken system kind of defeats the purpose because at the end of the day what everyone is pissed about in regards to a lack of playoff system in college football is the lack of the objective way to determine who plays for the championship.

                I guess the hole in my idea is how you seed the teams...not sure how to do that on objective basis.

                The only "solution" I can come up with is once the conference champs are determined you have the pollsters vote for those 12-13 teams only and the results of the polling is then the seeding...but that kind of throws a certain amount of objectivity out the window. The seeding would be the biggest hump to get over.

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                • FirstTimer
                  Freeman Error

                  • Feb 2009
                  • 18729

                  #53
                  Originally posted by 1ke
                  Conference champs get it. Let them settle it. Who wouldnt love to see UTEP or La-Monroe play against Oregon and tOSU in the first round?
                  I'd love it.

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                  • 1ke
                    D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 6641

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                    What the haters of the "little guys" don't understand, is a playoff would finally shut up guys like me, and the Boise's, when the "little guys" get stomped in the playoffs every year.

                    But to not give EVERYONE a chance at a championship, and just arbitrarily pick two teams to play, is outrageous. Every college football fan should be outraged, and demand change.
                    I actually wasn't being sarcastic. I would watch those games.

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                    • Warner2BruceTD
                      2011 Poster Of The Year
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 26142

                      #55
                      I'd rather argue about seeding, and who should be #8 or be left out as #9, than argue about undefeated teams being left out in the cold.

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                      • 1ke
                        D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 6641

                        #56
                        Im with you guys, And its the best way to do it IMO....

                        The conference winners..Big 10, 12, Pac 10, C-USA, SEC, Big East, ACC, Mountain West, WAC, Sun Belt, and MAC....Let em all in, seed em based on conference strength and set it off!

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                        • FirstTimer
                          Freeman Error

                          • Feb 2009
                          • 18729

                          #57
                          Originally posted by 1ke
                          Im with you guys, And its the best way to do it IMO....

                          The conference winners..Big 10, 12, Pac 10, C-USA, SEC, Big East, ACC, Mountain West, WAC, Sun Belt, and MAC....Let em all in, seed em based on conference strength and set it off!
                          Agree. Let every conference at the FBS level in. Figure out a way to seed them and go at it.

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                          • CaribbeanJoseph
                            I Can Score Goals
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 5275

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                            What the haters of the "little guys" don't understand, is a playoff would finally shut up guys like me, and the Boise's, when the "little guys" get stomped in the playoffs every year.

                            But to not give EVERYONE a chance at a championship, and just arbitrarily pick two teams to play, is outrageous. Every college football fan should be outraged, and demand change.
                            This

                            If you win your conference you deserve a shot at the NC imo. Obviosly the lower tier champs (Sun Belt, C-USA) are more than likely one and out every year but its only fair.

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                            • FirstTimer
                              Freeman Error

                              • Feb 2009
                              • 18729

                              #59
                              Anyone have any ideas on how to seed the teams in this thing?

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                              • FirstTimer
                                Freeman Error

                                • Feb 2009
                                • 18729

                                #60
                                Hypothetically based on Conference champs only here is who would have been in the "Dance" last season:

                                Alabama
                                Texas
                                Ohio St
                                Boise St
                                Cincinnatti
                                Oregon
                                Georgia Tech
                                TCU
                                East Carolina
                                Central Michigan
                                Navy*
                                Troy

                                *Treated the independents as their own conference just for the sake of this argument. Realistically if you went to conference champs only with no polling during the season it kind of defeats the purpose of even playing OOC games so it would essentially force independent teams into joining a conference.

                                Seed those how you want.

                                Top 4 teams get a "Bye". Use the BCS Bowl sites as the sites for the semi-final games, and the championship game. The 4th BCS game gets relgated to one of the quarterfinal sites for the year and each year the sites rotate. Championship game site goes to quarter final game site the next season and they rotate through.

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