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  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
    • 26142

    #31
    Keep defending the cartel, nothing will change. I wonder who's pocket this hack writer is in, to write something about this non story. We all know what master he is serving.

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    • Atlas
      BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
      • Feb 2010
      • 7949

      #32
      Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
      Keep defending the cartel, nothing will change. I wonder who's pocket this hack writer is in, to write something about this non story. We all know what master he is serving.
      shit, i want boise to go undefeated and play for the BCS title... b/c if they do, all the presidents and AD's of the BCS schools will finally clamor for a playoff, or at least take a step in that direction... but you were clearly misinformed on some of the things you posted... dont sweat it though, you are one of the few guys in this section who's opinion i actually respect...

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      • Warner2BruceTD
        2011 Poster Of The Year
        • Mar 2009
        • 26142

        #33
        Originally posted by Sportsbuck
        Uh, the home and home Tom Osborne offered to Boise started in 2014... and was turned down. How has nobody said why the home and home fell apart? Boise wanted to be paid a ridiculous amount of money, and Nebraska refused to do it. Florida Atlantic and Louisiana Laffayette got paid 650,000 and 700,000 each, and given how limited their budgets are they took it. Both of those schools have 2 of the worst budgets in FBS CFB today, and yet they had no problem with it, while Boise has around 10-15 million more to work with and demanded over 300,000 more.

        No one is saying Boise is afraid to play top teams or afraid to play Nebraska. However, Boise seems content to play the victim role while they are demanding a ridiculous amount of money compared to their market value (quote from Nebraska's AD), and the notion that top programs are afraid to play them is the most overblown and largely untrue issue in CFB today.
        Nowhere in that article (which was written using information gathered from a Nebraska newspaper, with a quote from a Nebraska spokesman, btw) does it say Boise asked for money for a home-and-home. It says Boise asked for money for a trip to Nebraska. Look at the wording.

        Boise has an open door policy for home-and-home WITH ANYONE IN THE COUNTRY:

        Part of it is the big boys not wanting to play Boise. The other part is Boise refusing guarantee games for the most part. AD Gene Bleymaier says plenty of teams will play the Broncos in non-conference games but only at their place. For example, Boise is traveling to Ole Miss next season but not returning the game. Not only does Bleymaier believe his program is beyond having to play those one-and-done games, but he plans to introduce NCAA legislation to mandate return games.

        Paulie, the quality of your question has rated explanations from Bleymaier and Boise president Bob Kustra ...


        Originally posted by Bob Kustra
        "We're doing a study of non-conference scheduling in Division I football. There is a fairly compelling case to be made that the Big Ten, Big 12, SEC and Pac-10 over the years have controlled the scheduling. All the large conferences ... What Gene will tell you, there's an overwhelming number of home games for the big guys but no home-and-home. We've been able to get a home-and-home with Oregon and Oregon State. We want to propose to the NCAA a mandated home-and-home scheduling arrangement for I-A non-conference football games. Why should Boise State go to Georgia, but more than likely they're not going to return it?
        Originally posted by Gene Bleymair
        "I think we've really dropped the ball as an organization. The NCAA could mandate this at any time. Oregon, Oregon State are return games. Ole Miss (next year), Washington, Arkansas and Arizona State are not. It's so simple to legislate.

        "We'll play anybody in the country home-and-home. You've got to do a better job of scheduling. You want us to go play three non-conference games on the road and they don't have to come here. Texas isn't going to do that, Oklahoma isn't going to do that, USC isn't going to do that, Florida isn't going to do that, Ohio State isn't going to do that, nobody's going to do that."

        By the way, Bleymaier looks at the opener against Virginia Tech as a road game even though it is being billed as a neutral site game in Landover, Md. "I'd rather play a neutral-site game than a guarantee game like we're playing the following year at Ole Miss. I'd rather play Ole Miss in Atlanta, than Oxford," Bleymaier said.

        Another reminder that Virginia Tech is the "home" team. It is getting $2.6 million in guarantee money from the game. Boise is getting less than half that, $1.25 million.






        And by the way, Boise & Nebraska were MOST DEFINATELY negotiating for a 2010 game at one point. Nebraska wanted it at home, Boise wanted to be paid, or get a home-and-home. Scheduling conflicts killed the home and home, and Nebraska balked at the $1M.

        NON STORY.

        Anyone who thinks Boise ducks anybody simply isnt looking at facts. The play top cartel teams and schedule as many cartel teams as possible every year. The AD has a bonus written into his deal to schedule cartel teams.

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        • NAHSTE
          Probably owns the site
          • Feb 2009
          • 22233

          #34
          W2B speaking the truth. I detected the one-way story telling in this article right away. The wording is twisted to make you think they turned down a home-and-home. Nebraska likely turned down the home-and-home before Boise asked for a million for the one way trip.

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          • Sportsbuck
            Buckeye For Life
            • Dec 2008
            • 3045

            #35
            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
            Nowhere in that article (which was written using information gathered from a Nebraska newspaper, with a quote from a Nebraska spokesman, btw) does it say Boise asked for money for a home-and-home. It says Boise asked for money for a trip to Nebraska. Look at the wording.

            Boise has an open door policy for home-and-home WITH ANYONE IN THE COUNTRY:
            Okay, so I messed up on the home and home reasoning, but that still doesn't explain why Boise turned down a previous home and home offer:
            HuskersGameday Tom Osborne previously called Boise State about playing a home-and-home with Huskers starting in 2014. Boise State turned down the offer
            9:43 AM Sep 7th via TweetDeck
            Anyone who thinks Boise ducks anybody simply isnt looking at facts. The play top cartel teams and schedule as many cartel teams as possible every year. The AD has a bonus written into his deal to schedule cartel teams.
            I don't belive anyone thinks Boise is ducking Nebraska, so I don't know why you keep repeating it. It's clear the negotiations fell apart over money, because Boise asked for a ridiculous amount and Nebraska wasn't willing to pay it.

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            • Warner2BruceTD
              2011 Poster Of The Year
              • Mar 2009
              • 26142

              #36
              Originally posted by Sportsbuck
              I don't belive anyone thinks Boise is ducking Nebraska, so I don't know why you keep repeating it. It's clear the negotiations fell apart over money, because Boise asked for a ridiculous amount and Nebraska wasn't willing to pay it.
              Check some of the responses in this thread.

              And I agree, this is just a money issue, I don't blame Nebraska for turning it down. I don't blame Boise though either for asking, because many schools have given it to them.

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              • Sportsbuck
                Buckeye For Life
                • Dec 2008
                • 3045

                #37
                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                Check some of the responses in this thread.
                Yeah, but most of them are your typical VSN dumbasses that think they know anything.

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                • Warner2BruceTD
                  2011 Poster Of The Year
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 26142

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sportsbuck
                  Yeah, but most of them are your typical VSN dumbasses that think they know anything.
                  Upon further review, I concede this.

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                  • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                    Highwayman
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 15429

                    #39
                    W2B is truth speaking in here.

                    It is a money issue, on every level.

                    Big boys at big boy stadiums won't do home-and-homes with the little guy while giving compensation for the little guy to actually afford the trip to travel there.

                    Look no further than florida...they won't play anybody on the road OOC. NOBODY. Why? It isn't for the K-State like ease of the schedule, but because they max out the home games, restrict travel, pay the least amount of money to schools, and the end result is maxing out the profit.

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                    • Sportsbuck
                      Buckeye For Life
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3045

                      #40
                      Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                      Look no further than florida...they won't play anybody on the road OOC. NOBODY. Why? It isn't for the K-State like ease of the schedule, but because they max out the home games, restrict travel, pay the least amount of money to schools, and the end result is maxing out the profit.
                      I think I read somewhere that the BCSNCG in 06 was the first time Florida traveled outside the state of Florida for an OOC game since the 1930s.

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                      • Atlas
                        BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 7949

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Sportsbuck
                        I think I read somewhere that the BCSNCG in 06 was the first time Florida traveled outside the state of Florida for an OOC game since the 1930s.
                        they havent left FL for an OOC game since 1991...

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                        • NAHSTE
                          Probably owns the site
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 22233

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Atlas
                          they havent left FL for an OOC game since 1991...
                          To be fair, you don't have to when you can maintain your OOC by scheduling in state. They were playing a top 5 FSU team every season in the 90s and never had to do it.


                          But Warner and Larry have hit the nails on the proverbial heads. This is purely financial, and the article proves nothing other than Nebraska is cheap and Bose is stubborn.

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                          • FedEx227
                            Delivers
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 10454

                            #43
                            Um.... I think that's what we've all said. At least JH, Atlas and I as well.

                            It's not simply that Nebraska is cheap, but also that there's absolutely zero reason for Nebraska to pay Boise $1 million for a potential tough game that could result in a loss. To them, why wouldn't it be more beneficial just to schedule New Mexico State pay them half the price and guarantee a win?
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                            • FirstTimer
                              Freeman Error

                              • Feb 2009
                              • 18729

                              #44
                              Originally posted by FedEx227
                              Um.... I think that's what we've all said. At least JH, Atlas and I as well.

                              It's not simply that Nebraska is cheap, but also that there's absolutely zero reason for Nebraska to pay Boise $1 million for a potential tough game that could result in a loss. To them, why wouldn't it be more beneficial just to schedule New Mexico State pay them half the price and guarantee a win?
                              Exactly.

                              At the end of the day for SOS purposes Boise needs the game WAY more than Nebraska does. Why would Nebraska pay Boise $1 million for something Nebraska doesn't need?

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                              • Warner2BruceTD
                                2011 Poster Of The Year
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 26142

                                #45
                                ....and I must have said 1,000 times in this thread that I don't blame Nebraska, either. It makes more sense to play South Dakota St, although personally I find that lame and have a ton of respect for AD's/HC's who have the guts to play good OOC teams. But the OP is framed in such a way to make you think Boise talks the talk about scheduling quality games, but doesnt walk the walk. And that's false.

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