Whitlock says Brian Kelly should be fired over students death....

[FirstTimer]

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/notre-dame-must-fire-brian-kelly-over-student-death-102910

Whitlock is generally hit or miss..I see part of hi spoint but basically shoto shis article in the foot with in the first two paragraphs admitting Kelly most likely didn't tell the kid to be up there and that Kelly held practice indoors the day before.

[EmpireWF]

Well, if Kelly was the one in control...perhaps he should.

If a student dies while working for/with any administrator and their life was put in danger by the situation....I'd imagine the professor would not have their job for much longer.

[ralaw]

It's a good thing for Kelly that he's in his first year and holds the hopes of all ND fans, which IMO is most of the reason he won't be held accountable.

I feel sorry for the kid, but there is no way I would have went up there.

[FirstTimer]

It'll be interesting to see what the investigation finds...

[Boucher]

Hope his family sues ND for all their worth

[BrntO4Life]

Rumor has it that Kelly despises practicing indoors because it doesn't properly simulate game-day conditions.

If the kid died over Kelly's callous disregard for safety, he absolutely should go the way of the Dodo at Notre Dame.

[Bear Pand]

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...t-death-102910

Whitlock is generally miss or miss..I see part of hi spoint but basically shoto shis article in the foot with in the first two paragraphs admitting Kelly most likely didn't tell the kid to be up there and that Kelly held practice indoors the day before.

FYP.

I don't think Kelly should be fired though. Obv what happened is messed up, but dude's job is to get his team ready for the next game. Surely there's someone who is directly responsible for managing student videographers. That's who needs to be fired.

Declan Sullivan, who tweeted before and during practice the weather conditions were terrifying and life threatening, certainly isn’t to blame.

Wow. If this is true then how did he get up there? Wouldn't be me.

[EmpireWF]

All I know is that I don't think I would be caught dead on one of those scissor lift things, wind or no wind.

:mclovin: = gw

If Kelly told the video people to get on the lift then sure, it's his fault. If he had no input, then no.

[NAHSTE]

They should've practiced inside, but then again, that's the all-powerful Captain Hindsight speaking.

There's a Jim Tressel quote floating around the internet though from the same day, where he says something like "we have to practice indoors today, I can't do that to my video guys who are up there 50 feet in the air." That shows that other schools in the midwest were taking safety precautions that day, and that could possibly be used against Notre Dame. Then the tweets the poor kid sent out an hour before clearly indicated reluctance on his part.

I don't think Kelly should be fired, but I do think that his (and all football coaches) priorities being so out of whack contributed to the notion that the kid had to go up there. More of an institutional thing than one man's fault. Notre Dame's football team not losing a day of practice "in game conditions" was more important than the well being of the video staff. It could've happened at any school, but it also could've just as easily been prevented.

Negligence in the highest order.

For the guys saying the kid should've refused to go up there, keep in mind that he's a 20-year-old kid who is busting his ass to make a career in sports, in a very coveted student worker position. You think he keeps his job if he tells an assistant coach he refuses to film 7-on-7 that day? "BUT WHAT WILL WE GO OVER IN THE POSITIONAL MEETINGS? YER FIRED KID!"

Basically, if Declan Sullivan refused to go on the lift and film that day, a different student would've gone up in his place. At no point did anyone on the football staff even consider the safety of their staff when they decided to hold practice outdoors and film it.

Someone will get fired for this, but probably not Kelly.

Also, the reports that Notre Dame continued practicing after the lift fell are pretty damning. If that's true, fuck Brian Kelly and Jack Swarbrick, who was reportedly in attendance at the practice. To make it worse, fucking Swarbrick tweets that he's never been prouder of Notre Dame than he was after 1,000 students showed up to the memorial mass. Mike Golic's son tweeted something similar. A kid dies because of your screwed up priorities and you then make that a point of pride for your school? Wow.

[padman59]

The Tressel quote is from the day before (Tuesday), I believe. ND practiced indoors on that day. Does anyone know if OSU actually practiced indoors Wednesday? Or if any other midwest schools practiced outside?

In addition to the football staff, the AD and other high ranking people in the athletic department were apparently out there before the accident. So, there appears to be plenty of blame to go around. Regardless, the ball was dropped on this issue, and a student died as a result. However, I want to see the investigation before I make any definitive judgments.

Ultimately, I'd be surprised if ND didn't decide to install a couple more permanent towers in addition to the ones they already have on the sidelines of their practice field.

[NAHSTE]

Didn't realize that Tressel quote was from the day before, I have no idea if the Buckeyes practiced indoors or not, maybe sportsbuck could find out for us. But either way, I'm amazed this hasn't happened before with these scissor lifts. You'd think every big-time program would have enough money to erect a few more towers. But it's not something that every crossed anyone's mind before now.