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[NAHSTE]

Outside of Beamer I can't name one ACC coach I would consider good, let alone great..

Paul Johnson, Butch Davis and Tom O'Brien.

[G-men]

Paul Johnson, Butch Davis and Tom O'Brien.

you mean the guy that had 12 players get suspended?

*waits for NAHSTE rant*

[NAHSTE]

you mean the guy that had 12 players get suspended?

*waits for NAHSTE rant*

Well, if Frank Beamer is a "good" coach with 0 championships, what does that make the architect of one of the greatest teams of all time?

[Sportsbuck]

Butch was a great recruiter and still is... But the U won a lot of games on talent alone. I would take any of the coaches I named over him.

Butch took a team from the depths of serious NCAA probation and sanctions and turned them into one of the best teams of all-time (And in all honesty should have played for a NC in his last year at Miami as well).

The only guys on that list I take over Butch are Jim Harbaugh and Chip Kelly. Personally, I believe Harbaugh may be the best coach in the country.

[Golden Taters]

Butch was a great recruiter and still is... But the U won a lot of games on talent alone. I would take any of the coaches I named over him.

I agree, aside from Sark (maybe Tedford) I believe they are all better coaches than Butch.