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  • NAHSTE
    Probably owns the site
    • Feb 2009
    • 22233

    hmm

    In his latest 9 million word opus, Mr. TMQ attempts to draw a correlation between where a WR played in college and how he will perform in the NFL. Basically, Easterbrook took a few notable examples (Colston, Welker, Amendola, etc.) of guys drafted late out of "small schools" and succeeding, and took a few other notable examples of guys from "football factories" like James Hardy and Darrius Heyward-Bey not succeeding, and decided to make that the entire premise for his article. (I know, I know ... Texas Tech is a better program than Indiana or Maryland, but this apparently does not matter in the framework of Easterbrook's 'theory'. Hardy and Heyward-Bey are from football factories, while Welker and Amendola came from the anonymity of Texas Tech, a little ole' school nobody's ever heard of.)

    Here's part of the column, so you can read how crappy and half-cocked this is, I would paste the whole piece but it would take me 5 hours.

    Undrafted wide receiver Blair White, a walk-on in college, caught two touchdown passes in the fourth quarter of Sunday's tense Indianapolis Colts at New England Patriots game, both times beating high-drafted safety Pat Chung. Also on Sunday, wide receiver Stevie Johnson, a seventh-round pick, caught three touchdown passes in the Buffalo Bills at Cincinnati Bengals game, twice beating corner Leon Hall, a former first-rounder. Earlier in the season, Pierre Garcon of the Colts, a sixth-round choice from Division III Mount Union, sprinted through the Washington Redskins secondary for a 57-yard touchdown reception, past defensive backs DeAngelo Hall and LaRon Landry, both high first-round choices from football-factory colleges.

    These plays, in a nutshell, summarize a core fact of NFL life: Receivers who were unknowns early in their NFL careers often outperform megabucks glory-boy high-drafted types.

    Among NFL receivers having fine seasons are Danny Amendola, Anthony Armstrong, Miles Austin, Davone Bess, Malcom Floyd, Antonio Gates, Lance Moore and Wes Welker, all undrafted. Other top receivers include Marques Colston, Donald Driver, Garcon, Johnny Knox and Kevin Walter, all late-round draft choices from below-the-radar colleges. And the league's No. 1 receiver is Brandon Lloyd, who has been waived twice in the NFL and barely played in 2008 and 2009.

    Some kind of fluke of the moment? Three of the NFL's top eight all-time receivers -- Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens and Andre Reed -- were small-college players.

    By contrast, you'd quickly run out of fingers counting recent first-round football-factory receivers who either were busts or failed to live up to their billing. Charles Rogers, Troy Williamson, Matt Jones, David Terrell, Ted Ginn Jr., Michael Clayton, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Ashley Lelie, Reggie Williams, Koren Robinson -- not even TMQ has room for a full accounting.

    Why do small-school and low-drafted NFL receivers excel where glory boys falter? In most cases, the answer is ego and work ethic.

    College "passing trees" tend to be fairly basic: Often big-deal college receivers aren't asked to do much more than outrun defenders. Many acquire the belief that they cannot be stopped, that all they need to do is show up and blow past people. Add this to the ego temptation awaiting all receivers -- fans and announcers notice you only when you're open, allowing you to maintain a fantasy that you're always open. The result is that big-deal, high-drafted receivers may arrive in the NFL thinking merely stepping onto the field will make them stars. That's how it was in college!

    The NFL reality is very different. NFL passing trees are complex; receivers must know them cold, plus know every sight adjustment, plus spend hours weekly with film. NFL defenders are fast. The slowest defensive back an NFL receiver will face is faster than 95 percent of the defensive backs in college. In college, top receivers often have a big lead on defenders. In the NFL, the objective is a one-stride lead.

    And in the NFL, if a receiver doesn't block, he doesn't play. In college, glory-boy receivers often take running downs off. In the NFL, only Randy Moss gets away with this. And Moss, a high-drafted megabucks type, hasn't exactly had a positive effect at New England, Minnesota or Tennessee this season.

    Undrafted or small-school receivers know their sole chance is to work, work, work. At Washington, Anthony Armstrong beat out high-drafted wide receiver Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly, both from football-factory colleges: Thomas was waived and Kelly has played little. At Buffalo, Johnson beat out high-drafted football-factory wide receiver James Hardy, who was waived. Thomas, Kelly and Hardy all strutted around practice complaining that they weren't being showcased: Armstrong and Johnson worked, worked, worked. Last season, while high-drafted, glam-boy wide receiver Roy Williams of Dallas was struggling, Miles Austin worked, worked, worked. Welker works, works, works and then works some more.

    If you were an NFL coach and saw two receivers on your sideline -- one a high-drafted complainer who expects a limo waiting for him, the other an undrafted guy who works, works, works -- who would you send in?

    Note I haven't mentioned Mike Williams, the 10th selection of the 2005 draft, from football factory USC, widely viewed as a mega-bust after being let go by the Detroit Lions, Oakland Raiders and Tennessee Titans. Williams arrived in the NFL thinking all he had to do was step on the field. He was in poor shape, didn't know the offense on three straight teams and whined nonstop. In 2008 and 2009, he was OOF -- out of football.

    If you are yet to see the Seattle Seahawks play this season, and few east of the Rocky Mountains have, Williams is having a solid season. He's already snagged more receptions in 2010 than in his entire previous NFL career, and is blocking well. Williams is in shape, working hard and saying "Yes sir, no sir" to coaches. He's becoming the player he might always have been -- if he'd attended Mount Union and been drafted late. Williams provides further evidence that how hard a player works -- not how much hype he receives -- is the secret to success as an NFL receiver.

    Thoughts?
  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    #2
    LOL at Indiana and Maryland being football factories. That alone is enough to disregard this shit smear of an entire article.

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    • SuperKevin
      War Hero
      • Dec 2009
      • 8759

      #3
      He used to be one of my favorite columnists but I really stopped reading a few years back

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      • Warner2BruceTD
        2011 Poster Of The Year
        • Mar 2009
        • 26142

        #4
        He refered to Johnny Knox & Kevin Walter as "top receivers".

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        • FirstTimer
          Freeman Error

          • Feb 2009
          • 18729

          #5
          Skimming this more:

          He brings up Brandon Llyod...who went to Illinois. Not exactly a small school by any means.....

          He also makes this retarded point:

          By contrast, you'd quickly run out of fingers counting recent first-round football-factory receivers who either were busts or failed to live up to their billing
          Hmm..any chance you can count that many because there are huge numbers of those kids drafted every season? I'd love to see the amount of "busts" there would be if the NFL all of a sudden started drafting more kid from FCS schools etc. I don't think he understands how math works. If the bust rate is say 50% on any position. 50% of 1,000 is much more than 50% of 10. So of course there are going to be more busts in general from a larger school. The sample size is much larger to choose from. By this ass clowns logic the Bears and any other team in the draft should just take nothing but FCS WR's and they will have Pro Bowlers all over the field.

          I also like how he arbitrarly says "3 of the top 8" receving leaders of all time are from small schools.

          Ok.

          1. That means 5 of 8 are from big time schools.

          2. Reed, Rice, and Owens all played with some of the best QB's to ever play the game or the best QB's of their era's....hmm....

          3. Why stop at 8? Oh wait..I know why.

          The next players are from:

          Marshall
          Syracuse
          Georgia
          NC State
          Mich St
          UNLV
          Jackson St
          Mich St
          Nebraska
          Miss Southern(Played with Elway)
          Stephen F Austin (This is Larry Centers. A fullback. Shocked as hell to see a full back as the #19 receptions guy in NFL history)
          Tulsa

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          • Diivox
            It's the other way.
            • Apr 2009
            • 1773

            #6
            Originally posted by SuperKevin
            He used to be one of my favorite columnists but I really stopped reading a few years back
            me too, then i realized that he is a high and mighty pompous asshole who uses his education and intelligence to try to impress people, but ultimately it just winds up being the same fucking column week in and week out.

            if im going to read a high and mighty pompous asshole on a regular basis, it will be Mike Florio

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            • FirstTimer
              Freeman Error

              • Feb 2009
              • 18729

              #7
              LOL at Knox being a top WR.

              37rec-672yds-1TD

              Wow.

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              • FirstTimer
                Freeman Error

                • Feb 2009
                • 18729

                #8
                The current top two regarded WR's in the game.

                Andre Johnson.

                Larry Fitzgerald.

                From Miami and Pitt.

                When did those schools get football teams?!?!?

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                • Warner2BruceTD
                  2011 Poster Of The Year
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 26142

                  #9
                  Larry Centers caught a shit ton of passes, but i'm willing to wager that 90% of them were checkdown dumpoffs for 4 yards, many of which took place on 3rd & 10.

                  The guy was the least impactful receiver i've ever seen.

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                  • FirstTimer
                    Freeman Error

                    • Feb 2009
                    • 18729

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                    Larry Centers caught a shit ton of passes, but i'm willing to wager that 90% of them were checkdown dumpoffs for 4 yards, many of which took place on 3rd & 10.

                    The guy was the least impactful receiver i've ever seen.
                    No doubt. I knew he got a ton of passes but enough for #19 all time?

                    That was just shocking to me.

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                    • Senser81
                      VSN Poster of the Year
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 12804

                      #11
                      My favorite part of the article is how he labels Davone Bess as being from a "below the radar school", while Ashley Lelie is a "football-factory receiver"....both went to Hawaii.

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                      • FirstTimer
                        Freeman Error

                        • Feb 2009
                        • 18729

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Senser81
                        My favorite part of the article is how he labels Davone Bess as being from a "below the radar school", while Ashley Lelie is a "football-factory receiver"....both went to Hawaii.
                        Nice....catch.

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                        • Warner2BruceTD
                          2011 Poster Of The Year
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 26142

                          #13
                          Some kind of fluke of the moment? Three of the NFL's top eight all-time receivers -- Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens and Andre Reed -- were small-college players.
                          He left out Isaac Bruce, which would have further supported his stupid point.

                          Or maybe Memphis is a football factory.

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                          • FirstTimer
                            Freeman Error

                            • Feb 2009
                            • 18729

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                            He left out Isaac Bruce, which would have further supported his stupid point.

                            Or maybe Memphis is a football factory.
                            DeAngelo Williams!

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                            • Senser81
                              VSN Poster of the Year
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 12804

                              #15
                              Here are some recent small college busts at WR...


                              2009
                              Ramses Barden/Cal Poly/3rd rd
                              Quinten Lawrence/McNeese St./6th rd

                              2008
                              Jerome Simpson/Coastal Carolina/2nd rd
                              Dexter Jackson/App St/2nd rd
                              Arman Shields/Richmond/4th rd

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